Monday Musings: What Happened to the Packers in the Trenches?

Sunday was an eye-opening reality check for the Green Bay Packers. They were heavily favored to beat a limited and struggling Cleveland Browns team. Many thought the Packers might be the best team in the NFL. But rather than coming out and flexing their muscles, they were outcoached, outplayed, and outworked. The best football teams are those that can dictate the trenches. Every team struggles to win football games if their offensive and defensive lines don’t perform. That was the case for the Packers on Sunday. The Browns won the matchup in the trenches, and they ultimately won the ball game.

Through the first two weeks of the NFL season, one of the Packers’ biggest strengths was being able to win in the trenches - both on offense and defense. The offensive line was keeping Jordan Love upright, allowing him to produce some of the best numbers in the NFL. The defensive line was living in the opponent’s backfields, shutting down opponents’ rushing attacks and making life unpleasant for quarterbacks.

Sunday’s matchup with Cleveland was shaping up to be another favorable matchup. Cleveland’s offensive line was banged up, and its quarterback is immobile—the perfect recipe for the Packers’ new and improved pass rush. Not to mention, Green Bay’s offensive line was finally getting healthy, and Matt LaFleur is known for being able to neutralize elite pass rushers. Unfortunately, strong matchups on paper don’t always translate to satisfactory performances on the field.

The Offensive Line's Performance Was Offensive

One of the main reasons why the Packers started 2-0 was that the offensive line had performed very well in both games. That was not the case against Cleveland on Sunday. The offensive line performed poorly, to say the least. The Packers started Sunday’s game with their regular starting offensive line, with both Aaron Banks and Zach Tom returning from injuries. That lasted one play. Eight different offensive linemen ended up playing. Zach Tom got hurt. Aaron Banks got hurt. Rasheed Walker even missed a few plays after his face mask broke off his helmet. The Packers’ front five was constantly shuffling around, and it showed.

Zach Tom left the game after the first offensive play of the game after aggravating his oblique injury. Jordan Morgan replaced Tom at right tackle for the rest of the first half. Matt LaFleur said after the game that it was “obviously” the wrong decision to let Zach Tom try to play in the game. Then Aaron Banks suffered a groin injury at the end of the first half and never returned after halftime. Morgan moved over to left guard, and Anthony Belton came in to man the right tackle position. When Walker's face mask popped off and he needed to leave the game for a few plays, Belton moved over to left tackle, and Darian Kinnard filled in at right tackle. The only two players who didn’t miss a snap or play two positions were Elgton Jenkins and Sean Rhyan, and they were just as bad as everyone else.

Before Sunday’s game against Cleveland, the front five of the Packers had done a fantastic job keeping Jordan Love upright. Love had only been sacked twice in two games and hadn’t taken many hits. That changed against the Browns. Love was sacked three times in the first half alone. He was pressured eight times and was never able to get into a rhythm. Love ended up being pressured on 41.9% of his drop-backs and only averaged 1.6 air yards per target, according to Next Gen Stats. "From my perspective, he was under duress for a majority of the game," Matt LaFleur said after the game. "We gotta look at some of the things we're asking our guys to do in terms of protection scheme. We gotta come up with better stuff for our guys to put them in better positions to go out there and compete."

In addition to poor pass protection, the Packers struggled to run the football. As a team, the Packers rushed 31 times for 81 yards (2.6 yards per rush). Josh Jacobs recorded 1.9 yards per rush. The longest rush of the day was a ten-yard scamper by Jordan Love. The Packers were unable to move anyone in the run game, and the Browns were constantly disruptive at the line of scrimmage. Unfortunately, the lack of production in the run game is becoming a trend for the Packers. It was just an abysmal performance.

Last week, Walker confidently declared, "I think we can go undefeated, honestly. Pound for pound, I look at these teams and I don't really see who is better than us." He proceeded to play one of his worst games in recent memory. He was called for two penalties - one of which was a drive-killer. When listening to Walker’s comments, his tone didn’t come off as cocky or overconfident. It’s better to be confident than not in the NFL. If he is going to make bold declarations for all to hear, then his performance needs to back up his words.

The Browns’ defensive front dominated the Packers’ offensive front, plain and simple. The only real positive was that rookie Anthony Belton held up fairly well for the second straight game. The rest of the unit? Not so much. The Lions and Commanders combined to record two sacks, four tackles for loss, and six quarterback hits. The Browns recorded six tackles for loss, five sacks, and seven quarterback hits today. It was a stark contrast from what the Packers showed in Weeks 1 and 2. And to top things off, the offensive line was flagged for five penalties - four false starts and an illegal man downfield. The Packers made a point to keep Myles Garrett from wrecking the game, but in doing so, they allowed everyone else to wreck it, including themselves. It was a sloppy, but humbling experience, to say the least.

There's No Defense for the Defensive Line's Play

First and foremost, Joe Flacco is a competent NFL quarterback. The 40-year-old signal caller has started 194 games over his 18-year NFL career. There’s not much he hasn’t seen or experienced. That said, he’s old, immobile, and limited as a passer. It’s not like he had a ton of success against the Packers on Sunday. He finished 21/36 for 142 yards and an interception. Those numbers led to Flacco finishing with a 55.6 passer rating and only 3.9 yards per completion. His longest completion was only 17 yards. Flacco didn’t make any game-changing plays, but he managed the game effectively and avoided any momentum-swinging turnovers. The Packers were unable to force him into any big mistakes. While on paper the numbers look pretty decent, they don’t tell the whole story.

The Browns started the day without Jack Conklin, their starting right tackle. They also lost starting left tackle Dawand Jones early in the game due to a knee injury after Javon Bullard went low on Jones while trying to make a tackle. That left the Browns with two backup offensive tackles in the game for most of the day. Rashan Gary, Micah Parsons, and company were facing off against KT Leveston and Cornelius Lucas. Browns’ guard Joel Bitonio was barely able to walk, per Kevin Stefanski, but still managed to make it through the game and did so effectively. He was even given a game ball for his tough performance. No matter how you look at it, Cleveland’s offensive line was in rough shape. The Packers’ defensive front should’ve dominated the line of scrimmage - but Cleveland still did.

The Packers’ pass rush was decent. It should have been great. They were able to record 10 quarterback hits, but they only recorded two sacks, and one of those sacks was by an unblocked Rashan Gary. They sacked Jared Goff four times despite facing Taylor Decker and Penei Sewell. They had a similar result against Jayden Daniels - sacking him four times and recording 12 quarterback hits even while facing Laremy Tunsil and Josh Conerly Jr. Yet today, against two backup offensive tackles, the Packers' pass rush could only sack Flacco twice? That’s just not good enough. This was set up for the Packers’ defensive front to wreak havoc, but they were relatively pedestrian for much of the game.

The Browns controlled the run game as well. Rookie Quinshon Judkins rushed 18 times for 94 yards (5.2 yards per rush) and a touchdown. He broke a 38-yard rush in the fourth quarter that led to the Browns scoring their first points of the game. Judkins is a talented back, but with multiple backup offensive linemen in the game for Cleveland, the Packers should have been able to dictate the line of scrimmage and keep him in check.

Not to pile on Micah Packers, but bigger contracts come with bigger expectations. The Packers gave him the biggest contract in NFL history for a non-quarterback to be the best player on the field, but he was not. Parsons finished the day with six pressures, two quarterback hits, and drew a holding penalty. That’s not bad, but against two backup tackles, it’s not enough. He was also flagged twice for being offside, including one that led to the game-winning kick by Cleveland. "Two off-sides is unacceptable for myself,” Parsons said after the game. “Just things we shouldn't be doing, I shouldn't be doing, it's unacceptable. I fully apologize for my actions."

It’s hard to complain about the Packers’ defense when they pitched a shutout for 56 minutes of the game. All in all, the defense did enough for the Packers to win. That said, it’s games like this that separate good defenses from great defenses. Going into Sunday’s game, they led the league in pressures. They have one of the best defensive players in the NFL and a brilliant defensive coordinator. The Packers had the ingredients to make Flacco’s day incredibly long, but they didn’t.

Adversity Can Humble, But It's Time to Learn From It

Despite a disappointing loss, the locker room isn't overreacting. They know they are still a good team, and that there is still a lot of football in front of them. No one is panicking after one loss. “This is all part of adversity. Undefeated seasons, they're hard. Let's be real. Sometimes, just like today, you s— the bed,” Parsons said. “That's just the reality. It happens to the best teams. Even the best Super Bowl champs make mistakes, and they pay for it."

So what now? There’s no need to hit the panic button after one game. The Browns were more physical, tougher, and executed better, but that doesn’t mean the Packers can’t still have strong offensive and defensive lines. Today they played terribly, but they can watch the tape, learn from it, and move forward. They saw firsthand what can happen if they show up without the right mindset and attitude. Now they will need to make sure it doesn’t happen again, or they are going to see similar results

The Packers weren’t going to go through the 2025 season unscathed. Adversity comes when it’s least expected, and that was the case today. But such is life in the NFL. "You go back to the history of the champions and who've they've played and games they should've won. It's just that competitive,” Parsons said. “It's that hard to win. It's hard as h— to win football games. When you win football games, it's a celebration. But when you lose, it sucks."It does suck, but there’s no reason to dwell on one loss. The Packers face the Dallas Cowboys next week, and they will assuredly do all they can to exploit the same issues the Packers experienced today. It's up to the Packers whether they let that happen.

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Carter Semb is a lifelong Packer fan, shareholder, and season ticket holder. He is a contributor for Cheesehead TV and Packers Talk. For commentary surrounding Wisconsin sports, he can be found on X at @cmsemb.

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Packerlifer's picture

September 22, 2025 at 03:12 pm

Tom and Banks were hurt and questionable going in to the game so it seems the Packers' coaching didn't prepare adequately for those contingencies. They seem to be hoping to skate by on a 6 man o-line: Walker,Banks,Jenkins,Ryan, Tom and Morgan as the swing man.

They don't really have any one who can really come in at left guard behind Banks. That screws up their plan to use Morgan at tackle or right guard, where I presume most of the week's prep work is addressed.

They appear not to really trust Belton and Kinnard to be "next man up" on the chart and they've got guys on the roster and practice squad who aren't called up. If they aren't good enough to play then why are they there? Maybe Gutey should be combing NFL practice squads or hitting the streets to see if he can come up with at least one good back up for the interior.

The injuries that Banks and Tom have are going to be with them for awhile so these problems could be a recurring matter for at least a few weeks. And shudder to think what happens if Jenkins goes down.

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dblbogey's picture

September 22, 2025 at 04:39 pm

It was just a poor decision to let Tom play. His injury needed more time, skip games 3 and 4, then the bye, then he's fully healthy with 13 games still to go. Belton and Kinnard were respectable last week at RT, while Morgan has been below average when he's played. So, they went with Morgan who has zero experience or reps at right tackle over Belton and Kinnard? Sometimes, puzzling personnel decisions are made by the Packers. The most puzzling decision by Gute was giving $77 million to Aaron Banks. Why, after 4 years in the league and rated pretty much an average NFL guard? I'd rather we'd given the money to keep Wallace, since it's highly doubtful Morgan can be the starting left tackle next year.

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Joster11's picture

September 22, 2025 at 05:49 pm

My thoughts exactly about Morgan and I mused about it on another thread. Why was he playing the RT position ahead of Belton and Kinnard? It made no sense.

I also questioned the Banks signing when it happened.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 22, 2025 at 10:26 pm

Kinnard filled in seamlessly when Zach Tom first went out. Jordan Morgan has played well at times this season and has improved a LOT since the beginning of this past off season, by he hasn't played at RT. Keep him on the left side of the line, have Belton and Kinnard stick to the right side; it just makes sense. Everybody would play better.

Playing Morgan before Kinnard in the position most expected to face Miles Garrett also made no sense.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 22, 2025 at 10:23 pm

What's a Wallace?

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splitpea1's picture

September 22, 2025 at 03:45 pm

No complaints about the defense. Only Gary really made splash plays, but collectively they couldn't have done much better on the scoreboard and forced six punts in the process.

Even with the OL being as dreadful as it was, this game was still winnable if MLF had used a little creativity in the situation instead of running Jacobs into a wall and employing the usual jet sweeps, which Cleveland was ready for. Why not use some wildcat formations from time to time with Willis? At least with Willis you might be able to throw the Browns a little off-balance, not to mention increase your chances on the ground with his mobility. Other teams do it to challenge opposing defenses with a different skill set. Take advantage of all your weapons if you need to.

And the ball has to be pushed downfield occasionally (but not recklessly) even under less than ideal circumstances. The way the came is officiated today, it seems you're going to get a PI call half the time. A yard and a half on passing depth isn't going to cut it, and you have to be able to be accurate on those short passes to the flat.

This is the first time the OL hasn't done their job with pass pro, so I'm not worried here, but run blocking is another story. For as much as MLF wants to pound it with Jacobs, he or Gute had better find a solution to open up some holes for him. Jenkins hasn't been much better than Myers at center, and Morgan is scraping bedrock at this point.

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Since'75's picture

September 22, 2025 at 03:48 pm

I know exactly what happened.....

The Packers went up against a good defense, especially a strong front, and the Packers couldn't deal with it.

It's that simple, that's what happened.
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Bring on the Cowboys!!

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davekenya's picture

September 22, 2025 at 04:15 pm

Well, if they were supposed to be the better team and weren't, they were overconfident and read too much of their own press and it translated everywhere on the field. Hopefully this becomes a game they can always refer back to for motivating themselves.

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GregC's picture

September 22, 2025 at 04:21 pm

I think the author is a bit harsh on the defense, but they are not blameless. Their failure to generate a meaningful turnover was a problem. Also, while the pass rush started strong, it faded as the game went on. They allowed two scoring drives in the last few minutes. They failed to close out the deal against a bad offense that was missing both of its starting tackles.

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dblbogey's picture

September 22, 2025 at 04:41 pm

The defense gave up 3 points. Love's interception at the 5 yard line gave them 7. The botched winning field goal block lead to another 3 points.

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Since'75's picture

September 22, 2025 at 05:59 pm

Even with the help of Love's pick (for the Browns).....

When the defense can hold a team to 221 total yards, and hold them to 13 points with almost a 9 minute T.O.P. advantage, there shouldn't be much (any) excuse not win that game.

I don't blame the Packer defense one bit for this loss.

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Matt's picture

September 23, 2025 at 03:25 pm

Don't forget the drive where they limited Browns to FG instead of TD when they had multiple tries from inside 5.

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Coldworld's picture

September 23, 2025 at 10:16 am

Any D that does what they did is not responsible for the loss. It’s that simple.

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TKWorldWide's picture

September 22, 2025 at 04:34 pm

Cohesion is very important in o-line play. Can’t imagine how that works with all the switching of players, and against a very good d-line group at that.
Wasn’t it Walker’s face mask that came loose? (Not Morgan’s?)
When Detroit and Washington stacked the box, Love and his receivers really made them pay. Yesterday the pass pro was so bad they really couldn’t gash the Browns the same way.
Does anybody doubt the team will rebound? I definitely expect them to.
GPG1

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dblbogey's picture

September 22, 2025 at 04:46 pm

Our defense is good enough to let us win against many teams. Love has to eliminate the 1-2 bone head plays he seems to make every week. He should have been intercepted last week on another bone head throw. He's actually played pretty well overall, IMO, and I put most of his struggles Sunday on having 2 defenders in his face all day and no holes for the running game. Jacobs averaged 2 Yards per carry.

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TKWorldWide's picture

September 22, 2025 at 05:03 pm

Yes, and I don’t think “creative playcalling” is the answer when the o-line struggles as badly as yesterday.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 22, 2025 at 05:01 pm

Nothing good happens on offense unless people get blocked, and that was the problem against Cleveland. Five sacks is too many and if we can't fix that it's only a matter of time until Love is hurt.

Ideally, we'd like Walker, Banks, Jenkins, Rhyan, and Tom when we play Dallas, and that's probably not going to happen. We'll have to simplify. I'm in favor of letting our RBs take the punishment instead of our QB, and that means not exposing him to hits and sacks.

We all know that it takes offensive lines a while to gel. We have moved guys around because of injuries. It's early.

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Since'75's picture

September 22, 2025 at 06:04 pm

They moved them around before injury also.

When they moved Jenkins to center.
I didn't like it then, and i don't like it now.

I wanted Jenkins kept at LG, don't fix what isn't broke.
I know it's early, but whiffing (so far on Morgan, isn't helping either.

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vin0770's picture

September 22, 2025 at 05:17 pm

Can’t think there is a play in MLF playbook that works in the category of: “being owned by men imposing their will on the line of scrimmage”

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Coldworld's picture

September 23, 2025 at 10:18 am

Butkus and Stenovich are being shown up now we have Hafley not Barry. It’s not new but the same issues. Now they are just much more salient because the D is performing.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 22, 2025 at 05:22 pm

LaFleur: "We gotta look at some of the things we're asking our guys to do in terms of protection scheme. We gotta come up with better stuff for our guys to put them in better positions to go out there and compete."

So maybe coaching is an issue for the OL?

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LayingTheLawe's picture

September 22, 2025 at 07:21 pm

I know what people think of PFF grades, but when i think the result is this striking it's worth reporting. The Packers entire line PFF grade was the lowest team grade for an offenisve line in the NFL in 5 years and the worst for a Packers team in over a decade. SO, it wasn;t just bad it was historic bad.

The PFF summary article called it a complete and total meltdown for the entire line:

"Collectively, Walker, Morgan, Banks, Belton and Jenkins allowed 15 total pressures. All five finished with a pass-blocking grade under 40.0, and they were nearly as poor as run blockers. Morgan (three) and Walker (two) combined for five penalties. This was one of the worst offensive line performances of the Matt LaFleur era. The Packers' pass protection unit was credited with allowing 17 total pressures, and everyone was to blame. Rasheed Walker, Elgton Jenkins, Jordan Morgan, Sean Rhyan, and Anthony Belton all gave up three pressures apiece. The Packers couldn't block Myles Garrett, Mason Graham, and Maliek Collins, who combined for 12 pressurs and seven stops. This was a complete meltdown up front for the Packers."

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 23, 2025 at 12:14 am

Indeed it was.

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Handsback's picture

September 22, 2025 at 09:13 pm

Second time to write this...
Gutsey made a statement that no more training wheels and excuses because you are the youngest team in the league. It's SB or bust time. Not in those words, but in his actions.
Green Bay had time to prepare, and they lost the battle in the trenches. The coaches can't be comfortable in that performance. The players should be ashamed of that effort.
So what's next? I suspect MLF will find out or already knows his future is on the line and will have the team ready. I thought the Browns were good on defense, but their oline was in worst shape than the Packers but didn't play down to that level but scrapped for every yard they could and pulled the game out.
Lots of games left....let's see which players have the effort to make this a SB winning season and those that don't have that extra drive.
JMHO

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 23, 2025 at 12:21 am

I didn't see signs of anyone slacking off. I didn't see signs of anyone falling into a trap game. Might've happened and I missed it? I'd be very curious to see film breakdown of this, either way; especially wrt our O line. Whether it's coaching, individual talent or sheer effort, I think that's the biggest culprit of the loss and the problems contributing to it even if they had closed this game out with a win. That and ST, even though our 3 specialists are fine.

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PackfanNY's picture

September 22, 2025 at 09:49 pm

The story of the game was our Offensive Line got its Ass kicked. We still could have and should have won the game. We did not. Poor Coaching, terrible play calling and bad execution led to unsatisfactory defeat.

On to the Cowboys.

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