Confessions of a Polluted Mindset - New Beginnings
The Weekly Packers Brain Drain from Jersey Al.
By JerseyAl

As the song by Semisonic goes, "every new beginning is some other beginning's end." The song is called "Closing Time" and that's what it was for the Packers career of Jaire Alexander. After months of speculation and the roller coaster journey of hope and then dismay and then hope again, it's official. The Packers told Jaire it was "closing time" on his Packers career. As another line in the song goes, "you don't have to go home but you can't stay here." Jaire will be looking for a new place to call home and if experience tells us anything, it probably won't be too far from Green Bay. We may very well have to watch Jaire suit up in a Vikings, Bears or Lions uniform. (I started to write "and see him six times a year," but there is no guarantee of that, is there?) And in the end, that is why Alexander is gone.
I believe most of us hoped it could get worked out, that Jaire and the Packers could come to agreement on a contract restructure with incentives for games played or snaps, let's say. But as Ted Thompson loved to say, "it takes two to tango." Does Jaire really believe he would get a contract like his current on from another team? Very unlikely.. And don't be shocked when you see the details of whatever contract he lands and you ask yourself, "why couldn't the Packers have offered that? Then ask yourself how do you know they didn't? Jaire is a prideful man - you can be sure this whole situation did not sit well with him. Perhaps refusing to come to an agreement with the Packers (assuming that's what happened) involves a bit of spite. His feelings for the Packers were likely diminished when the cold business side of the NFL reared it's ugly head. We've seen a similar scenario play out in recent history with Davante Adams. In the end, Jaire missed 20 games over the last two seasons. Something had to give. I wish it could have been worked out and he could still be with the Packers, but just not on what his current deal was. The one positive is the cap savings the Packers will get, which will come in handy with players they have looking for extensions.
Another BIG new beginning occurred yesterday when this happened:
First practice in the Black & Gold 🙌 @AaronRodgers12 pic.twitter.com/fjG8M64EOC
— Pittsburgh Steelers (@steelers) June 10, 2025
I don't know about you but for some reason I feel better about this than seeing Rodgers in Jets green. I do not think he's "finished" and I believe he will do well there. The Steelers' offensive line will keep Rodgers cleaner and give him that extra time any quarterback will appreciate, but especially one that is 41 years old. While I don't think he will lead them to a Super Bowl, how great would it be to have a Steelers-Packers Super Bowl rematch with Rodgers leading the Steelers this time? I saw this funny line from someone who was less than enthusiastic about Rodgers finding success in Pittsburgh," Rodgers can now be responsible for preventing the Steelers from winning a Super Bowl for a second time."
Lesser New Beginnings:
Elgton Jenkins began his new role as the Packers starting center, albeit without participating in practice beyond some bike work and "coaching." Jenkins is one of those previously mentioned players looking for an extension or restructure as a reward for changing positions while facing the very real possibility the Packers cut him next year to avoid a 25M cap hit. Still, it was good to see him show up for mandatory minicamp and not be an official "hold-out."
The Packers have a new run-stopper. Cameron Young, a fourth round draft pick of the Seahawks in 2023 was signed to fill an open roster spot. He's a 6'3", 304lbs, strong and wide-bodied run stopper. He played in sixteen games for the Seahawks as a rookie but missed the majority of last season with a knee injury. Young was waived by teh Seahawks and now gets an opportunity for a new beginning with the Packers, who have a run-stopping hole to fill with the exit of TJ Slayton in free agency. Young will be battling for a potential roster spot with Packers' sixth-round pick Warren Brinson and UDFA Nazir Stackhouse. That's 946 lbs of DL beef between the three of them!
For those of you really down about the Jaire news, fear not! It's Bo to the rescue! Who's that you say? Why none other than the Packers' own Bo Melton, who was seen taking snaps at CB at yesterday's minicamp. I can't say I blame him (or the Packers depending on whose idea it was). Barring a bunch of injuries in the WR room (sorry for typing those words), there is little room for Melton on this roster. If he shows dual-role promise, they could keep him on the practice squad for a year and see where that goes. Otherwise, it's bye-bye Bo (no matter how much LaFleur says he loves him).
#Packers WR/CB Bo Melton(?)
Bo working with the DBs to start practice. 👀 pic.twitter.com/5kh0j4aMH1
— Marques Eversoll (@MarquesEversoll) June 10, 2025
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Comments (121)
GregC
June 11, 2025 at 06:13 am
Odds for where Jaire Alexander will sign, from bookies.com:
Team Odds Implied Probability (%)
San Francisco 49ers +400 20.0
Las Vegas Raiders +400 20.0
Los Angeles Rams +550 15.4
Miami Dolphins +600 14.3
Philadelphia Eagles +750 11.8
Carolina Panthers +900 10.0
Los Angeles Chargers +1200 7.7
New England Patriots +1500 6.3
Detroit Lions +1500 6.3
The Field +800 11.1
They say the Niners and Raiders have the biggest need at CB and plenty of cap space. The Vikings aren't even on the list.
Cheezehead72
June 11, 2025 at 06:32 am
Interesting. What I found out is that the first team on this list that plays primarily man coverage, the type of coverage that JA prefers, is the Lions.
TKWorldWide
June 11, 2025 at 08:19 am
Their new DC is Kelvin Sheppard. I wonder if he’ll go to more zone. Or not.
Starrbrite
June 11, 2025 at 07:21 am
I hope he signs with the Raiders and makes 10 interceptions against Broncos QB Bo Nix—I hate the Donkeys.
Packers0808
June 11, 2025 at 06:31 am
Would really like to Melton make the jump, love his attitude to do anything to stay relevant!
TKWorldWide
June 11, 2025 at 11:19 am
And keep collecting NFL paychecks. 😉
Packers0808
June 11, 2025 at 12:52 pm
No be a good solid legit player.
TKWorldWide
June 11, 2025 at 10:07 pm
Wait…does someone think players in the NFL wouldn’t do nearly anything to STAY in the NFL?
Packers0808
June 12, 2025 at 06:45 am
Guess you don't pay attention with many players retiring as early as their later 20s come as of late. So no not all do.
TKWorldWide
June 12, 2025 at 05:04 pm
You think Melton is one of those?
Ok, let me clarify, do you think FRINGE players are willing to do almost anything to make the team? I do.
NFL > Piggly Wiggly (etc)
Gman1976
June 11, 2025 at 01:01 pm
The next Sam Shields?
Oppy
June 11, 2025 at 06:53 pm
Sam Shields was lightning in a bottle.
Usually these types of last-ditch crossovers don't turn out well. Hope for the best, but probably won't work out.
BELIEVER
June 12, 2025 at 11:58 am
My thoughts too, wait and see
Cheezehead72
June 11, 2025 at 06:37 am
Yes I agree I am waiting to see what kind of contract JA signs. I do believe it will be a lower contract with heavy incentives. JA has shown us that he is more concerned about JA than the team. He is free to think that way. I only wish him the best.
Rodgers is now married. No one knows to who. I have my guess but I will might put it down here later. Yes a Packers Steelers SB would be fun to watch but I just want the Packers in the SB against anyone.
I like Melton. He is a true player. He is an athlete. Find a way to keep him and get him on the field.
Guam
June 11, 2025 at 06:58 am
Interesting report that despite releasing Alexander post June 1, the Packers elected to take the entire cap hit for his release in 2025. The Packers have the room in 2025 to do that and still have some space for in-season transactions and it clears up 2026 considerably. The Packers are now $17 million under the 2026 cap rather than $10 million over.
I wouldn't be surprised if the next move is a reworking of Jenkins contract that may add an extension year and some guaranteed money in 2025 and 2026 in exchange for lowering Jenkins 2026 cost to a more reasonable number (currently at $24.8 million).
T7Steve
June 11, 2025 at 07:26 am
The only reason Jenkins is sitting out is because he has no guaranties. He's not trying to get a raise, but I'm sure his agent and he would hesitate on a pay cut. It's not like it's his fault they want him to move to center. It might be a career extender, however and that's maybe the hold up.
Guam
June 11, 2025 at 07:49 am
Jenkins 2026 salary cost is almost $7 million higher than his 2025 number ($18.5 versus $11.8). Like many NFL contracts, the last year of a contract is an inflated number designed to bring both parties back to the bargaining table. I doubt Jenkins ever expected to earn the $18.5 million salary in 2026. I suspect he and his agent are looking for an extension and some guarantees while reducing the 2026 number to something more in line with standard IOL compensation.
Jenkins has been durable enough and played well enough that I could see the Packers granting a small extension (one year, two at most) and guarantees in 2025 and 2026 in exchange for some cap relief.
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 08:42 am
"the last year of a contract is an inflated number designed to bring both parties back to the bargaining table. I doubt Jenkins ever expected to earn the $18.5 million salary in 2026."
Yeah, I look at the practice of writing these deals with heavy back-loading of cash value to inflate AAVs and I wonder why anyone takes it seriously.
Bitternotsour
June 11, 2025 at 10:36 am
Durable enough? I beg to differ.
Guam
June 11, 2025 at 11:11 am
He's played in 70 games and missed 11 in his career. Not perfect but far from bad. Very few guys are iron men anymore given the attention to concussions.
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 01:49 pm
Missed only 4 from 2022-2024.
dblbogey
June 11, 2025 at 12:31 pm
"Like many NFL contracts, the last year of a contract is an inflated number designed to bring both parties back to the bargaining table"
I think it's to make the contract look like it's much more money than the player will ever actually get. That way, the player can brag, the agent can brag, and the team knows they'll never actually pay that inflated last year of the deal.
Alberta_Packer
June 11, 2025 at 12:32 pm
After the Banks signing - perhaps Jenkins and his agent thinks he should now earn the 18.5M in 2026. Thus meaning a 24.8M cap hit for the Packers in 2026 - which the Packers may want to reduce or avoid - possibly via a re-structure or player release -as Jenkins will be 30. So I too think this is what the current negotiation is largely focusing on - the 2026 year. Still I'm OK with an extension as long as it's a win-win for both parties.
Meanwhile - a personal annoyance. At the mini camp - either Jenkins fully participates or stays away. None of this standing around as an observer so he can qualify for his workout bonus and/avoid being fined. This loophole should be eliminated as it emits fake participation.
Leatherhead
June 11, 2025 at 01:49 pm
He is there because the team wants him there, and he wants to be there.
Y’all think Jenkins should just accept getting cut loose after the season. I don’t think he wants that, and I don’t think the team does either.
Alberta_Packer
June 11, 2025 at 02:56 pm
So if he truly wants to be there - just join his team mates on the field. Otherwise he's just a distraction.
Leatherhead
June 11, 2025 at 03:04 pm
He's not a holdout, he's part of the team, and the contract is being worked out. The team wants him there.
Alberta_Packer
June 11, 2025 at 03:26 pm
He's already under contract. So genuine good faith is being a full participant - while his contract is being re-worked. Both is possible at the same time.
Leatherhead
June 11, 2025 at 07:30 pm
Do you really think the Packers want/need Jenkins participating in the first few days of drills? This is being resolved amicably. There's no holdouts, no fines, he's not being shopped in trade.
Jenkins is the cornerstone of our Oline. The most experienced, the most versatile, most capable lineman we have. He should be treated as such, and not like a one-year rental. He's a damn solid piece around Love in the window.
Alberta_Packer
June 11, 2025 at 11:36 pm
Did the Packers want/need Jordan Love, Josh Jacobs, Zach Tom, Xavier McKinney etc. participating in the first few days of drills? It seems they did.
I'm just not a fan of mid-contract performative negotiations.
Leatherhead
June 12, 2025 at 09:02 am
Did the Packers want Jenkins there, but not participating until the contract gets worked out? Yes.
Alberta_Packer
June 12, 2025 at 11:41 am
What's more likely is that Jenkins is at mini camp - as a non-participant - so that he wouldn't be fined $105,000.
Leatherhead
June 12, 2025 at 02:01 pm
You don't believe in a world where adults resolve things amicably and to their mutual benefit, do you? That fine isn't squat. That comes from a mindset of "I have to do what I do so I don't get punished". I don't think that's the dynamic that's at work in this situation.
He wants to be there, the team wants him there, both sides are agreeing to rework his deal before he gets on the field. This is what adults do. As noted by others, he doesn't want to be a cap casualty at the end of the season, so they're working out something that will keep him around for a while. He's the veteran leader on that offensive line, and one of our best players.
Alberta_Packer
June 12, 2025 at 08:15 pm
Well if he really wanted to be with his Team - there were 2 previous opportunities with the OTAs. Except the sessions were voluntary and therefore non-finable So no Elgton Jenkins. Also what proof is there that the Packers are re-working his contract? They could very well be taking a hard line and expecting him to honor his contract.
TKWorldWide
June 13, 2025 at 06:58 am
“I’m just here so I don’t get fined.” Beast Mode.
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 08:39 am
I agree in that he's protecting his earning power. The Packers supposedly are trying to get out of the practice of adding void years to spread out guarantees, but absent adding a year or two in extension that might be their only recourse to settle this.
He reported, and I'll take that as an indication that things probably aren't ugly.
stockholder
June 11, 2025 at 07:11 am
With the release of Alexander
The Green Bay Packers currently have around
$46 million in cap space for the 2025 season.
(per over the cap)
And since Humphrey is the top paid center at 18 mil.
You can assume they'll over-pay Jenkins.
I'll take the UDFAStackhouse over Cam Young.
Bo Melton at cb is just another reason
why I criticize Gute's drafting.
Hopefully, he finds a quality Free Agent again.
Coldworld
June 11, 2025 at 07:37 am
Agree with you on Stackhouse. Despite being almost 20 pounds heavier his testing is essentially equivalent and he was a better run stuffer in college.
Cheezehead72
June 11, 2025 at 07:41 am
Over The Cap has $35.5 million in cap space for 2025 but I believe they are looking at JA's contract being split over 2025 and 2026 but the Packers claim to be taking the hit in 2025.
LambeauPlain
June 11, 2025 at 09:20 am
Beyond "cleaning up" the cap, I don't understand the financial upside taking all the Alexander '25 and '26 dead cap hits now.
Thought the added cap this year would be used to extend Tom and Q. Walker. Maybe they still have the resources for that.
dblbogey
June 11, 2025 at 12:37 pm
It gives them a ton of money in 2026, when they'll really need it.
jannesbjornson
June 11, 2025 at 08:00 am
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
TKWorldWide
June 11, 2025 at 08:21 am
Thanks for the reminder! That had totally slipped my mind!
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 08:43 am
I can't remember what I had for dinner last night...I hope it was something good...
TKWorldWide
June 11, 2025 at 10:00 am
😂
Old.as.Lambeau
June 11, 2025 at 07:17 pm
Never heard that before
mnbadger
June 12, 2025 at 11:02 am
Nice.
GPG!
dblbogey
June 11, 2025 at 12:36 pm
The Packers don't have $46 million in cap space for 2025. They applied all of Jaire's dead money onto 2025.
stockholder
June 11, 2025 at 02:20 pm
I only reported their figure.
I'm sure there was more to it.
Oppy
June 11, 2025 at 07:00 pm
The Packers didn't draft Bo Melton.
After signing Golden and Williams, the Packers know that the likelihood of Melton making the team as a WR is slim-to-none.
The Packers like Bo Melton, the person and the athlete, and he's under contract.
The Packers are giving Melton an opportunity to potentially find a way to stay on the roster. This has nothing to do with Gute's drafting. And, frankly, I doubt that Melton sticks as CB, anyways.
stockholder
June 11, 2025 at 07:50 pm
I'm fine with them giving Bo Melton anywhere.
The problem is being short handed in the first place.
jannesbjornson
June 11, 2025 at 09:57 pm
The Fans are in Denial.
dobber
June 12, 2025 at 09:57 am
In denial over the lack of depth in the CB room?
It doesn't sound like that here...
Oppy
June 12, 2025 at 04:02 pm
I was even vocal during the draft that I thought the Packers should have gone CB in the first or second round, but I guess I'm in denial.
jannesbjornson
June 12, 2025 at 08:58 pm
How about a lack of Talent.
Leatherhead
June 11, 2025 at 08:02 pm
Stockholder, Coldworld, and Leatherhead are all on the Stackhouse bandwagon. This may be the first time we've ever lined up.
Surely, the Apocalypse is near.
Bitternotsour
June 12, 2025 at 08:56 am
I'd cut and paste a photo of the 2500 acre fire in the Columbia River Gorge to support that argument.
Starrbrite
June 11, 2025 at 07:28 am
I’m with those of us in the remaining crowd who wish ARod well. Although I would have been less enthusiastic had he signed with an NFC team.
I liked Jaire and wish he would have remained with the Packers—oh well.
Let’s use the new cap space to entice/sign Hendrickson…I know, I know—“it can’t happen” sayeth the doom and gloomers.
Go Packers!!!
…I think Sorrell is going to be a stud.
Cheezehead72
June 11, 2025 at 07:43 am
Its not just about the money to get Hendrickson; it is about the draft picks we have to give up to get a 30 year old EDGE. It will not happen.
PeteK
June 11, 2025 at 08:02 am
How about a 2nd rounder Enagbare, and/or Van Ness ?
dblbogey
June 11, 2025 at 12:39 pm
Yea, that's not how things work. And why would anybody want to trade for Enagbare or LVN at this point?
Guam
June 11, 2025 at 08:04 am
The Packers have second contracts coming up on Tom, R. Walker, Rhyan, Watson, Doubs and Q. Walker. A Hendrickson sized contract would just about eliminate resigning any of them. Plus all of the draft picks as you succinctly pointed out. For a 30 year old with only a few years left in the league. No thanks. The Packers' future is not worth one player.
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 09:25 am
This would be a "roster-finishing" kind of move. I think at this stage the Packers have too many moving pieces to think that Hendrickson is the final "put them over the top" move.
Coldworld
June 11, 2025 at 07:42 am
I agree with Al that the handling of Alexander doesn’t scream urgency. I agree with others that it raises questions about the approach to recruitment at CB. Either Gute sees a couple of significantly under appreciated (by outsiders) talents behind Nixon, Hobbs and Valentine, or he is walking himself well out on a limb at this point.
Guam
June 11, 2025 at 07:53 am
The Packers still have enough 2025 cap room to sign a decent veteran CB. If they are trying Bo Melton at CB, that tells me Gute is not all that confident about his reserves behind Nixon, Hobbs and Valentine.
Cheezehead72
June 11, 2025 at 08:00 am
I will not buy that Gute is not confident in his backup CBs. I believe it is more of a way to keep Melton on the roster because he can only have so many WRs and Melton would not clear waivers if he was released.
Guam
June 11, 2025 at 08:18 am
I dunno Cheezehead. King played zero snaps on defense last year and the next best option is their seventh round pick from this year. There is no proven depth beyond the top three CBs. I lean toward ColdWorld's take that Gute has to be concerned about that depth.
You may be right that shifting Melton is a way to try and keep him on the team in the face of a deep WR room, but the Packers CB room depth is extremely thin on experience.
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 09:13 am
I don't make a lot of this kind of experimentation in OTAs and minicamps. They know what they have in him as a WR...they're just kicking the tires.
As Al says, he wouldn't be ready to play much on defense in '25. He can already be a gunner on STs. He'd go to the PS and make the switch over the course of the season there. Still, this would make him essentially a 27 year old rookie CB in next year's camp with limited game experience at his position.
I wouldn't bet against Melton clearing waivers.
Leatherhead
June 11, 2025 at 08:51 am
I think it's more a case of liking Melton and wanting to keep him around for a while in case we have injuries. I think there's zero chance he plays CB in a regular season game.
Oppy
June 11, 2025 at 07:07 pm
The Packers are literally kicking the tires- nothing more, nothing less- in an attempt to see if Melton can even play CB at this level.
I agree they like the man, the athlete.. they're just giving him a chance to maybe, possibly, by miracle, find a way to stay a Packer.
Some people are reading this as Packers desperate for CB help. That's not what it's about. It's 100% about Packers (and Melton) know Melton probably won't make the cut as a WR. Packers must like Melton, Melton must like Gree Bay.. they're giving him a slim opportunity to stay a Packer.
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 10:00 am
I'd argue that the JA release turned out to be mostly a cap-based foregone conclusion, but Gute's not going to cut off his nose in June to spite his face. He's been talking to his coaches, too, and they had some idea of what they have to work with whether JA stayed or left. They have several promising UDFAs in camp, but you're right: it doesn't look to us on the outside like a deep room, and while they have several DBs who time in the 4.4s, none are really regarded as guys you want to turn and run with speedy outside WR.
If they see Bullard as their primary slot guy, that takes some pressure off the CB room, but I'd still be looking toward a value FA signing--someone that they can bring in on low salary and virtually no guaranteed money that they can cut if he gets beat by the younger kids and not feel it. Maybe they can hit the jackpot on someone like JA who ended up on the open market and needs to rehab their image on a one-year deal to get that next multi-year contract.
Oppy
June 12, 2025 at 04:13 pm
Bullard is a piece that gives you flexibility at a sacrifice- improve your nickle package run support, at the cost of quality coverage.
He's not a great coverage option in the slot. As a true safety, it's a different story. But I don't think you want to rely on Bullard as your slot defender outside of down and distance where you're concerned about the run.
LambeauPlain
June 11, 2025 at 10:05 am
I expect Gutey received thumbs up on the growing talent in the CB room from LaFleur and Hafley. King, Hadden and Robinson might be seen as good "fits" to coach up for the Vision and Break Defense.
Still, expect another CB added via free agency, trade, or after cutdown day.
dblbogey
June 11, 2025 at 12:49 pm
I suspect their hope was at least one of the decent cornerbacks would be available to them in round 2, but there was a run on CB's leading up to the Packers pick. I think they might have grabbed one the top DL's in the first round, but they, too, were off the board. Every team has weaknesses. With the salary cap, that's always going to be the case. I don't know why fans wanted to pay a disgruntled CB who has played in 20 of 51 games in 3 of the last 4 seasons, has had a ton of injuries, got himself suspended for being a selfish jerk, and hasn't been the same since a nasty shoulder injury years ago. Last year, he'd practice all week, then come game time, said he couldn't play. He refused to accept any renegotiation with the Packers or any other team. It's not like he's a top 5 shutdown corner at this point. Bye Jaire.
PeteK
June 11, 2025 at 08:07 am
Champ Bailey and Richard Sherman made the transition from WR to CB. The positions mirror each other. We can dream.
Cheezehead72
June 11, 2025 at 08:32 am
There is a difference between Bailey and Sherman to Melton. Bailey and sherman played both sides of the ball in college. Now Melton is still young and I wish him the best on being able to make the switch.
LambeauPlain
June 11, 2025 at 09:38 am
Bo is almost a mirror image of Sam (Shields) in size, speed, and combine testing. Bo had a far better college career than Sam at WR.
Sam then switched to CB his last season at Miami and Ted took a shot on the athletic UDFA after the draft. I recall at the time many didn't think Sam would make the team. He ended up being the 3rd CB his rookie year and never looked back.
Who knows about Bo? He has athletic skills you can't coach...but Hafley is a DB expert and perhaps he and Ainsley pitched CB work for Bo to LaFleur and Gutey. He's a football player and knows WR techniques. It's a long shot, but so was Sam.
croatpackfan
June 11, 2025 at 10:07 am
I'm with you LP.
There is numerous examples of players changing positions from one to other side. You mention Sam Shields, who first comes to my mind after I learned how Packers try him at CB position.
Also, there is 6 beter WR than Bo at the moment on Packers roster: Reed, Doubs, Golden, Williams, Wicks and Watson (at the moment on IR), and possibly Hardman.
Also as I remember I think he was CB, Melton played on the defensive side of the ball while he was at high school, but never took a snap on defense at Rutgers...
BuckyBadger
June 11, 2025 at 01:27 pm
Making the change in college vs the pros is a whole different ball game. Lots of guys change positions when they get on campus as their body is still maturing and developing their skills. Shields had a year of CB in college. Bo didn't play CB in college, I wouldn't expect this change to catch.
croatpackfan
June 12, 2025 at 03:01 am
You might be right. But, I tend to believe more to coaching staff than any of us, just learning and knowing the game from watching it. Coaches has much, much more informations that we have. So, lets see how that will pan out!
LeotisHarris
June 11, 2025 at 08:35 am
Herb Adderley was primarily a halfback at Michigan State, so it can happen.
13TimeChamps
June 11, 2025 at 12:12 pm
Willie Wood was a QB at USC, the first black, starting QB in that league's history. He also played Safety. He was drafted as a QB but requested to play defense and became a starter his first year and stayed there his entire career.
TKWorldWide
June 13, 2025 at 06:56 am
When I was very young, I always thought “halfback” sounded much less impressive than “fullback.” Same for “weak” or “free” safety compared to “strong” safety. Ha! Whoa, Nelly! (I also loved Keith Jackson’s voice calling all those college football games.)
TKWorldWide
June 12, 2025 at 05:09 pm
This is the time of year to do that! (Dream)
What are Melton’s odds of making the team at receiver (in a room that has suddenly gotten much more crowded)?
I actually thought Melton was a bit underused at receiver. He seemed to do well when given the opportunities, but I’m not the one grading the film. Gotta say I’m a fan of a guy like him. If the switch to CB works out, great!
GPG!
HarryHodag
June 11, 2025 at 08:51 am
Jenkins holdout has me a bit concerned. I'm fairly certain something will be worked out but one thing that is vitally important to offensive line play is continuity. While Jenkins has been on the line he hasn't been at center and that causes some change, especially with a new left guard.
In the 1980's and '90's offensive linemen routinely held out and these holdouts to my eye affected the offense. What was silly was the Packers offense wasn't all that great but for some reason these guys all felt they were underpaid and the Packers always caved.
I guess this is just more pre-training camp overthinking but it is something to keep an eye on.
GregC
June 11, 2025 at 09:02 am
I'm starting to worry about Jenkins too. I wonder if his agent is telling him that he's got the Packers over a barrel because they are depending on him to play center. Or if the agent is playing up the jealousy angle because Aaron Banks is getting paid more than him to take over his position.
I've read articles saying that Jenkins is concerned because moving to center will make him less valuable if he hits the open market after this season, but I don't understand that line of thinking. What would stop him from signing to the highest bidder as a guard?
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 09:20 am
The Packers didn't draft a C, and they just as easily if the plan was for "one year of a C and move on" could have tried opening the competition between Monk, Rhyan, and every other G/C on the roster at C and moved Jenkins to RG. I think the pathway they've chosen is one that leaves the door open to more than one year of Jenkins at C, and he is still under contract for 2026.
" What would stop him from signing to the highest bidder as a guard?"
Or as a T for that matter?
GregC
June 11, 2025 at 09:57 am
Yeah, switching Jenkins to center makes sense if they rework his contract so he can realistically stick around for at least two more years (through 2026), or maybe three. Having him go one-and-done at center doesn't make much sense to me. That's why I think they should welcome the opportunity to make a new deal with Jenkins. But I don't know if they see it that way. I'd like to know what kind of deal Jenkins is seeking. I hope he and the team are not too far apart.
(Dang, this site is squirrelly today. Hard to type things in on my phone. At least the spammers have been gone for a couple days, not to jinx it or anything.)
LambeauPlain
June 11, 2025 at 10:14 am
It seems Jenks WANTS to be a Packer past 2025 and would like some guaranteed money from the current remaining contract.
Apparently he's not asking for more pay...just making it more difficult to let him go after the season. I can understand that motivation. If you don't ask you don't get.
You win football games with players like Jenks.
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 09:29 am
Ken Ruettgers would hold out frequently, and the reason supposedly was that he wanted to get out of doing two-a-days.
Turophile
June 11, 2025 at 09:02 am
For the older ones among us, the right song for Jaire is the outstanding, but melancholy Doors track 'The End' (and I do love my music so I don't say it lightly).
For the younger people here, a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VScSEXRwUqQ
Hope you enjoy it.
Regarding JA, more tongue in cheek would be Pink Floyd with 'Us and Them', also excellent.
I agree about Rodgers. If he stays (relatively) healthy he could get the Steelers into the playoffs.
As for Elgton, it might well be one more year and he is gone. Not a pleasant prospect, but the Packers are always reloading on the O line, so they are in a good position to do as they see fit, whichever way it goes.
JerseyAl
June 11, 2025 at 07:57 pm
Apocalypse Now...
Turophile
June 14, 2025 at 02:05 pm
Can't believe I'd completely forgotten that it was used there.............
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 09:48 am
We'll need to remember your comments, Al, on where JA settles and the contract details that eventually surface. This is more convoluted than just bottom-line $$ and we have no idea what the Packers were actually offering.
Usually these June signings aren't much to get excited about, but Young is better--not great--than most June pick-ups. The Packers have created some serious competition for the last couple DL spots. You have to expect that Clark and Wyatt are locks. Brooks seems to be someone they really like, and he has DT/DE flexibility. After that, it's looking like a dogpile of Stackhouse, Young, Wooden, and Brinson for the last couple spots, but how many they allocate to run-down DTs will be the question. How they plan to deploy LVN and others (DE/DT flexibility?) makes a difference, too.
Bo at CB? I think it's just summer camp try-outs--they lose nothing by taking a look at this stage, and most summers we hear about cross-training and possible position switches that really don't mean anything in the long run. Melton has to know that his prospects of making a dent in the league are becoming more and more limited--I'd be willing to try, too, but he's a fringe WR and STs gunner. Good luck to him.
Cheezehead72
June 11, 2025 at 09:49 am
Ok I decided to say who I think AR married. I believe he married himself.
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 10:37 am
They have the same taste in tea...
dblbogey
June 11, 2025 at 12:53 pm
Well, they say marry the one you love.
LambeauPlain
June 11, 2025 at 09:52 am
Alexander already knows there will be strong resistance from other teams to pay him Packer money.
The Bills were interested in a trade for him but they insisted a rework of the Packer contract for more playing time incentives. Alexander said no.
There may be a team willing to gamble for the oft injured CB, but he has essentially declared to the NFL "no incentivized deal for me based on actually playing football" having nixed 2 offers already from the Packers and the Bills.
He wants more guaranteed money so he gets paid whether he plays or sits. My feeling is the Packers took a hard line for heavy playing time incentives and Alexander stated he "could make more money elsewhere."
Always possible Alexander comes back to the Packers hat in hand if NFL demand for his demands are weak. He doesn't seem the type, though.
GregC
June 11, 2025 at 10:10 am
I wouldn't say that Alexander has declared that he won't accept an incentivized deal. He has to know that he won't get everything guaranteed. He just wants a better deal than what the Packers or Bills were willing to offer. By making himself available to all teams, chances are good that he will get a better deal somewhere.
dblbogey
June 11, 2025 at 12:54 pm
And what deals did the Packers and Bills offer?
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 10:17 am
This is a well-stated synopsis of the JA situation from our outsiders' positions.
It could be that he was looking at the Packers' depth chart with the acquisition of Hobbs and competition for snaps at CB and wondered if he would be in a position to make playing time incentives work.
RCPackerFan
June 11, 2025 at 10:14 am
I really do wish they could have worked something out with Alexander. They are better with him on the field then without. If they could have came to some sort of restructure I think it would have been better overall for both sides. But Alexander might have just wanted out from the start too.
Bo knows...
I think Bo probably understands that the writing on the wall that is going to be very hard to earn a roster spot at WR. They already had Doubs, Reed, Wicks ahead of him from last year. And they added Golden and WIlliams who are ahead of him as well. That doesn't include Watson who will be back this year. Obviously things can change, but its a loaded room.
So he knows he has to find other ways to be on the roster. I don't have high expectations of him making it as a DB. But, if he could find a way to do a dual role, it improves his chances of making the roster.
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 10:24 am
It will be interesting to see what happens with Watson. The reports in the media are that he's well ahead of schedule for a late-season injury and he could force the Packers to bring him along faster than we expect.
I think we all expect him to be on the PUP from the start of camp just based on rehab time...that actually makes the WR room a little clearer and allows the Packers to protect another younger guy. By this route, I hink we can expect that there will be a roster move to be made at WR by the time Watson would be ready to be activated. If he practices any in camp, though, PUP goes out the window and the Packers will likely need to use a roster spot on him from the get-go. If he's really ready to play, is it such a bad problem to have?...but it muddies the bottom of the WR depth chart.
"Obviously things can change, but its a loaded room."
That's what we're hoping.
GregC
June 11, 2025 at 11:45 am
Seems like we've heard this story before: Player says he's way ahead of schedule with his rehab, but in the end, he doesn't return until right around the time he was originally expected to return. Not all ACL injuries are equal, but my understanding was that Watson's injury was a pretty bad one.
dobber
June 11, 2025 at 12:19 pm
Huh...I'd thought the opposite: that he had a pretty "routine" tear with minimal collateral damage to other tissues. I did a quick look and didn't find any info into the extent of the injury or surgery, so I don't know what I'm basing my understanding on.
GregC
June 11, 2025 at 12:38 pm
I don't know what I'm basing my understanding on either, so we're even. I hope you're right!
Leatherhead
June 11, 2025 at 07:56 pm
It's the first part of June. It's 90 days until the first game yet. The videos show a guy moving around pretty well. I've kind of written him off until at least Thanksgiving, but now I'm not so sure. He might be on the field in October, if there aren't any setbacks.
NFLfan
June 11, 2025 at 10:20 am
Fans are giving too much power to Jaire regarding the danger he will indirectly inflict on GB. Anyone who thinks they can play 35% of the time and be paid 17M is delusional.
I appreciate Al not piling on Rodgers. Yes, he's annoying but he strikes me as a guy who is having difficulty moving on to the next phase in his life. Steve Young : 'He likened Rodgers' situation to being at the "bottom of a cliff" with a "broken sack of bones," needing to find a new way to be great after his NFL career ends. Young emphasized that Rodgers is likely wanting to return to his former greatness and avoid the feeling of not being good at anything else'
GregC
June 11, 2025 at 11:02 am
I checked out that interview with Steve Young, which was way back in early March. At that time, the Steelers were one of several teams that Rodgers might end up with. Young said the Steelers would not be a good place for Rodgers because they are "not built for today's game. I don't know how else to say it. It's built for success, but not for Super Bowls." I've heard similar takes from others. They think the Steelers' offense is not a great fit for Rodgers. It will be interesting to see if they can make it work.
Cheezehead72
June 11, 2025 at 11:16 am
I will agree with that statement about the Steelers. They have a very good defense and a run game. They have on dependable TE. Their WRs are very suspect because Metcalf and Patterson are the only proven receivers. Patterson is in his 13th season. To me this is not a team that AR can go into and have success in the first year.
I see the Steelers coming in 3rd in that division as long as the Bengals can score lots of points to win games.
BuckyBadger
June 11, 2025 at 01:28 pm
So Jenkins wants a bigger contract for making the move to Center because Guards typically make more. Does that mean we know are over paying for the Center position?
PackerBackerAZ
June 11, 2025 at 05:31 pm
He was overpaid at the left guard spot because the powers that be thought he might have to fill in at left tackle. Right now he is way overpaid at center.
GregC
June 11, 2025 at 06:09 pm
I looked up the average salaries by position in 2025, according to Sportrac:
Guard $2,500,421
Center $2,394,058
That's about a 4% difference. Basically nothing.
And of course, Jenkins is a veteran who can play guard, center, OR tackle, and he can play them pretty well, so we should expect him to be on the high end of the center/guard pay scale.
There is a lazy narrative out there that Jenkins wanting a new deal has something to do with pay disparity between guards and centers. It doesn't make any sense. I think Jenkins just wants more long-term security in exchange for his willingness to switch positions. He doesn't want to play a different position this year only to become a cap casualty at the end of the season. The Packers probably don't want that to happen either, which is why they are apparently negotiating with him instead of just telling him to shut up and play ball. Of course they can tell him that if they want to, but it's probably not in their best interest.
Leatherhead
June 11, 2025 at 07:42 pm
Greg, Drew Boylhart, over at thehuddlereport.com, many years ago laid out why Center was the second most important position on the offensive line, behind the Left Tackle. He handles the ball every play. He's usually lined up across from one of the biggest, strongest humans on the planet. He changes blocking assignments at the line. He tries to catch opposing linemen jumping offside so we can get a free play. He can help either guard, which makes both of them better. He ensures there is a pocket for the QB to step up into.
"He doesn't want to become a cap casualty at the end of this season". Absolutely. He'd rather stretch out his current deal and retire as a Packer than have to go somewhere else after the season. This is going to be done. The Packers will add some years, and some guaranteed money. Jenkins will be a solid piece for us during the remainder of the Love Window. We'll also have Tom, Morgan, and Belton during that stretch.
Major Snafu
June 11, 2025 at 09:26 pm
He was told we drafted you because you played two positions in college. You played two here so how hard is it to play three? I agree maybe some incentive bucks. I don't think he last long two games and injury city.
Major Snafu
June 11, 2025 at 09:23 pm
IMO he wasn't all that good. Glad he's gone. The guy avoided contact like the plaque. Qbs sure didn't back away throwing his way. Just a big mouth who couldn't back it up with his play. The Packers just got better.
greengold
June 12, 2025 at 11:40 am
I read through this in amazement, tinged with disappointment. Tea leaves are a thing. Nags & Justice spelled it all out eloquently in their recent review. Some of you who like to only read articles might actually enjoy Aaron & Justice's insights shared.
Seriously, the Packers have been fiscally positioning themselves to "Clean Books," as Arron clearly pointed out. BINGO! "Clean. Take your medicine and move on." I don't think there is a better, more concise and clear description of what just occurred with Jaire Alexander. Bo Melton? I mean, come on!!! He's getting a simple trial at DB with the door being held wide open for him to exit 1265. That writing was on the wall the day Gutekunst signed Mecole Hardman.
CTFB.
Then, Elgton Jenkins? Justice spelled that out much like I've been thinking to a T, knowing how much cap space the Packers cleared - for what I've been guessing was this very purpose: to absorb our biggest, least value cap hits - and moving on. Like Justice, I doubt heavily that Elgton plays another game for the Packers. His time here was great, save for what we witnessed in last year's mail-in. Worst showing in his professional career, and he's expecting likely more than Banks' contract? Seems to be his posture. Not sure why. There's been zero "ascending," with Elgton Jenkins' play of late.
"Clean Books." The Packers have an opportunity to have all of the new OL talent they've acquired over the last 2-4 years gel into a cohesive unit built not only to pass block, but also run block like destroyers. This is a clearing of the deck, allowing for new talents to earn their roles up front, and to be that cohesive unit up front that can be counted upon for years - like many of us have been craving. How does Rasheed Walker get an extension run blocking like he has? TJ Slaton vibes with regards to underachieving on the other side of the ball. Wyatt? Dude needs to bring it.
Gutekunst is cutting bait. Screwing around with underachievers at OL doesn't protect "the franchise" players Jordan Love and Josh Jacobs. Quite the opposite.
Same for many other positions on this Packers team. We're seeing much of the same with the WR and DB Rooms. Good. I've felt for years they required overhauls, and that 1265 was looking too much like a freaking Country Club.
Results matter.
jannesbjornson
June 12, 2025 at 09:03 pm
He drafted the players and presented the Deals along with Low Ball. Eight years is enough for this inbred operation.
GregC
June 13, 2025 at 05:52 am
I listened to a chat with Aaron Nagler and Justis Mosqueda just a couple days ago, and they talked about Elgton Jenkins. Justis did not say anything about Jenkins not playing another game for the Packers. In fact, I haven't heard ANYONE say that until I read your post. I don't think Jenkins was that bad last year either. I thought he played pretty well, as usual. He's actually holding out. There's no indication that the Packers intend to get rid of him.
JerseyAl
June 13, 2025 at 06:39 am
Justis said he doesn't think they will come to an agreement on an extension. What that would probably mean is that this is his last year with Green Bay. That's what Justis was saying.
greengold
June 13, 2025 at 02:37 pm
Thank you, Al. Yeah, I've got nothing against Elgton Jenkins, but, last year was his worst showing in his 6 years of NFL play. Ranking 45th amongst OGs overall via PFF? Wow. Never lower. Ranking 71st, amongst 136 OGs in run blocking? I didn't just make that up - no agenda - merely stating facts. His pass blocking is phenomenal, placing him #3 overall in the NFL. THAT's how poorly he run blocked in 2024.
I'll be the very first to admit, he had two far lesser players on either side of him throughout the season in run blocking with Myers and Walker.
My whole point was looking at his career overall, his cap figure currently, his current stance to hold out for a better deal to play C, and the Packers FO being more proactive/prudent in where they throw their chips.
NFLfan
June 12, 2025 at 11:28 pm
GPG