Confessions of a Polluted Mindset - Say It Ain't So, Josh
The Weekly Packers Brain Drain from Jersey Al.
By JerseyAl

So much for a relatively quiet off season. As I'm sure you know by now, the Packers' Josh Jacobs was arrested yesterday after turning himself in to the Hobart/Lawrence Police Department. Mug shots are all over social media if that kind of thing interests you. The charges he's facing are serious ones: battery/domestic abuse, criminal damage to property/domestic abuse, disorderly conduct/domestic abuse, strangulation and suffocation, and intimidation of a victim. They are all misdemeanors except for the strangulation and suffocation charge, which is a felony. Jacobs willingly turned himself in to police while "vehemently denying" the charges through his attorneys.
The NFL is no stranger to domestic abuse charges being leveled against some of their players. They are often criticized of "turning the other cheek" to varying extents when these types of accusations are made public. They will perform their "own investigation" and eventually find there was no or little evidence the player had violated the NFL's personal conduct policy. In fairness, often times they are just accusations or civil lawsuits of a "he said.she said" nature.
But what about situations where arrests were made, as in the case of Josh Jacobs? I thought I would look at recent cases of actual arrests of NFL players and here's what I found:
- Kadarius Toney (2025):
NFL wide receiver Kadarius Toney was arrested and charged with aggravated assault and hindering an emergency telephone call after a domestic incident in Georgia.Toney was without a team at the time (early 2025) and no court or trial date has ever been confirmed. The NFL never suspended him, so he could play for an NFL team if any were willing to sign him. - Xavier Worthy (2025):
Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Xavier Worthy was arrested on a felony charge of assault against a household member by impeding breathing or circulation. After further investigation the district attorney declined to proceed with the case and the charges were dismissed. It all happened rather quickly, so no action was taken by the NFL. - Jabrill Peppers (2024):
New England Patriots safety Jabrill Peppers was arrested and charged with assault and battery, strangulation, and possession of a Class B substance.. Peppers was placed on the "Commissioner's Exempt List" (basically paid leave) for seven games. Peppers was found not guilty of all assault charges and eventually rejoined the Patriots.
These don't tell us anything significant about how the NFL handles arrest cases, basically they just wait until there is some sort of resolution (innocent until proven guilty), which is how it should be.
The court of social media has already deemed Jacobs a guilty piece of trash of a human. Ignoring that, Jacobs should be given every chance to prove his claim that the allegations are false. One needs to look no further than the recent Stefon Diggs case. Diggs was acquitted by a jury of similar felony strangulation and misdemeanor assault and battery charges. It's a fact that famous and wealthy people are easy and frequent targets of opportunists looking for an easy payday. Work your way into their circle and make up a bunch of false accusations that are annoying enough that the "mark" is willing to pay them to just go away.
To be clear, I'm not implying that this is what happened to Jacobs, but it's possible. Until all the facts are revealed, we can't really take a stand on either side of this situation. Like the NFL does, we must wait and see what the courts and the legal system decide. (I'm not particularly fond of supporting NFL policies, but in this case, "it is what it is.")
But make no mistake, if Jacobs is found guilty of any of these charges, I don't want him on my team and the NFL shouldn't want him in their league.
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Comments (84)
Cheezehead72
May 27, 2026 at 06:32 am
I hold to the fact that in this counrty a person is innocent until proven guilty. This is a right that many have died to protect. Yes he was arrested on Memorial Day the day we set aside to remember those sacrifices. If found guilty he should be punished. No one is above the law.
I agree that rich and famous people are targets for money grabbing people and are many times victims of false accusations. Sometimes the person did the wrong thing and the accusations are inflated. I will not go as far as Al to say that if he is convicted or takes a plea to any of these accusations that he should not be on the team anymore because I do not know what each of these entails. Sometimes and argument gets inflated and a person gets arrested. If he laid a hand on an individual that is not self defense then yes I do not want to see him in green and gold ever again.
Guam
May 27, 2026 at 07:59 am
Due process is the fourteenth amendment to our constitution and every citizen is entitled to it. I have no idea whether Jacobs is guilty or not, but he is entitled to his due process.
I understand the NFL has a "code of conduct" in the CBA and can take action based on that rather than on the law, but the Quintez Cephus case at the University of Wisconsin has given many schools and professional leagues pause over acting too hastily based on their code of conduct alone. UW kicked Cephus out of school based on a rape allegation by a coed long before he had his day in court. The jury very quickly sided with Cephus in his rape case when the coed frequently changed her story and lost all credibility. Cephus was acquitted of all charges within 45 minutes of the jury being sequestered to deliberate the case. Cephus then sued UW and won a substantial verdict against the University for their lack of due process in dismissing him based on their code of conduct versus the due process required by law.
I trust our legal system and would prefer to see due process in full before the NFL steps in and offers public relations based "judgement". And I say that as a "law and order" type who would want Jacobs out of the Packers and the league if he is found guilty.
dobber
May 27, 2026 at 08:09 am
The legal system is one thing, but the court of public opinion and PR are another. Domestic violence charges or even allegations are often a poison pill for players. Most teams, and the league itself, are highly protective of their public images.
Guam
May 27, 2026 at 08:35 am
Agreed that the NFL is PR sensitive Dobber and the NFL could suspend Jacobs with full pay (Commissioner's Exempt List) as a public relations move according to their private code of conduct. They would have to be careful not to impugn Jacobs during that process to avoid any potential for litigation.
Private codes of conduct have become dicey legal issues in themselves. Yes, PR is important, but so is avoiding large, expensive lawsuits. Rock and a hard place for any organization.
Cheezehead72
May 27, 2026 at 08:09 am
I am not a lawyer and I do not play one on TV and I have not researched the Cephus case much but that might be due to the University of Wisconsin being a state institution and accepting federal money.
The 14th Amendment protects people from government the NFL is not government. They can handle their discipline different.
Guam
May 27, 2026 at 08:29 am
".........the NFL is not government."
Correct, but the NFL still has to follow the laws of the land. If the NFL acts before the government does and injures (legally speaking) Jacobs by disallowing him from earning his living or damaging his reputation, Jacobs can sue them for damages if he is acquitted of legal charges. That is why the Cephus case was a bit of a landmark versus private codes of conduct.
The NFL could quietly suspend Jacobs with full pay (Commissioner's Exempt List), but I doubt they suspend him without pay or publicly chastise him as that opens them up to a potential lawsuit.
golfpacker61
May 27, 2026 at 10:18 am
"If the NFL acts before the government does and injures (legally speaking) Jacobs by disallowing him from earning his living or damaging his reputation, Jacobs can sue them for damages if he is acquitted of legal charges."
The league and the teams are also unwitting victims in this case and there is already damage being done to the Green Bay Packers team. GB will get sued by someone that feels wronged by statements or actions, they need to protect the team, not the player.
Coldworld
May 27, 2026 at 08:42 am
There was indeed a title IX claim in there, but the core claim related to reputational and other non physical harm through denying him the basic rights to a fair hearing as constitutionally mandated and reasonable public interpretation by the wider population, including the league, of those actions.
In essence he asserted that the actions of the university were of a sort that appeared to preempt the criminal case and essentially treat him as guilty in public before he had been given a chance to defend himself and thus due process. Obviously, he was re-admitted after he was cleared, but by then, as this discussion proves, he was already marked.
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 09:49 am
You trust our legal system? How quaint. We have an injustice system. How innate bias might affect this particular case, or not, I have no idea.
I think the only safe assumption is to realize we have no idea what happened, or if those facts will ever see the light of day. The fact that anyone in the NFL can afford the best legal representation available may help.(?) They say it ain't so ...
Guam
May 27, 2026 at 03:40 pm
I am reminded of that old quote about democracy. Democracy is a bad form of government, but it is still better than any of the other alternatives. I think the same applies to our judicial system. It isn't perfect, but I would much rather have it than be subject to the judicial systems of Russia, China, Iran, Iraq, Syria, North Korea, etc. etc.
Be careful what you wish for SST.
stockholder
May 27, 2026 at 06:35 am
Help is available.
Cheezehead72
May 27, 2026 at 06:40 am
Yeah I run a four four forty and am 6'1" and 230. My issue is that I only have a 6" vertical. I guess the movie title is right.
GregC
May 27, 2026 at 06:41 am
Last year, OTAs began with the news that Elgton Jenkins had decided not to participate because he wanted a contract extension. This year, OTAs began with......this. It seems like a bad omen, which is exactly what the Jenkins thing turned out to be. Oh well, all we can do is wait and see what happens. I'm hoping for a quick resolution, one way or another, but that's not usually how these things go.
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 09:56 am
You do realize that "news" about Elgton was always false? Similarly, once certain allegations are made, it's almost impossible to defend against them regardless of the facts.
Lare
May 27, 2026 at 06:48 am
In many cases, charges and arrest in these situations comes down to the discretion of the investigating officer. The resolutions comes down to the attorneys.
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 09:59 am
Very strange that no arrest was made in a DV case, but he was allowed to remain on his own recognizance until he turned himself in, two days later. This does NOT add up!!
Coldworld
May 27, 2026 at 10:38 am
It is strange if one assumes they were both in the residence when the police arrived, given that, by statute in domestic violence cases “a law enforcement officer may not release a person whose arrest was required under sub. (2) until the person posts bail under s. 969.07 or appears before a judge under s. 970.01 (1).” Therefore, were he present, the default obligation would be to take him into custody immediately.
My guess is that Jacobs may have left the premises before the police arrived. In that case the police may have acted solely on then present physical evidence (which will be open to legitimate challenge) of an altercation (mess) and her statements. It seems likely Jacobs then contacted his lawyers who would then be the police point of contact with Jacobs by law once informed of their representation since there was no immediate danger through proximity.
That probably in turn means the lawyers organized him handing himself in and also that the police may not have had even his side of the story when issuing the charge sheet and obtaining the warrant. As I keep saying. There is a great deal here that has yet to come out. Far more than many seem to realize.
Savage57
May 27, 2026 at 07:00 am
You can take a boy o't the 'hood,
But you can't take the 'hood o't the boy.
Or, as Chappelle reminded us, "I Keeps It Real" is often a bad course of action.
dobber
May 27, 2026 at 08:07 am
This is pretty poor, Sav.
Savage57
May 27, 2026 at 08:30 am
It's the whistling past the graveyard thing I tend to do when shit hits the fan.
It's unfortunate it happened at all, but stuff like this is happening with increasing frequency in the NFL despite the spotlight being placed on it. When you endow young men from disadvantaged backgrounds lacking a centeredness available to them through no fault of their own, with a sense of infallibility derived from money, attention, or both, an increased frequency of bad outcomes are inevitable.
It's bad in practice and in optics, and I think a lot of the indignation in the latter sense ties to the "Packers people" hokum too many people believe.
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 10:01 am
You're representing the very WORST of the court of public opinion.
TruePackerBacker
May 27, 2026 at 10:12 am
Oh shut the hell up. Once youre racist, you look worse trying to justify your racism. But I blame your poor sad of a father and mother. Why? Because you wouldnt say that in Jacobs face for the most part. Youre only tough behind a computer screen. Hope you get the help you need before you die because again, your sad parents did a poor poor job and im sure its because their useless parents also did the same.
dblbogey
May 27, 2026 at 01:28 pm
racist!!! LOL. 13% commit 55% of the homicides. 80% of black kids have no daddy in the home. Pointing out that black culture has problems makes you a racist apparently.
BradHTX
May 27, 2026 at 10:17 am
Savage, you’re a longtime participant here and I’ve never had a beef with you. But domestic violence happens at all levels of society, and being “from the hood” doesn’t make you an abuser. Full stop.
dblbogey
May 27, 2026 at 01:29 pm
LOL.
HarryHodag
May 27, 2026 at 07:47 am
I read the NFL personal conduct policy often leads to a six-game suspension. While a severe blow to the Packers chances, the team should look seriously at cutting bait and moving on regardless of the end result.
I know he is innocent until proven guilty. But this could linger for months, perhaps up to a year depending on how the lawyers wish to pursue it.
If the alleged claims are legit, you also have to think about the victim in the case.
Marshawn Lloyd is next up, but they should look at a trade or signing to make sure there's enough talent to carry 50 percent of the load.
I hope the allegations are false, but if true, there's no place in Green Bay for Josh Jacobs.
Cheezehead72
May 27, 2026 at 08:13 am
Not totally sure how Jacobs contract reads but if they keep him on the roster until this all plays out and he accepts a plea or is found guilty the Packers could cut him then and possibly get some money back if they do it before they will forfiet that money.
When he is suspended he goes on the exempt suspended roster and does not count against the 53.
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 10:06 am
Correct the roster is unaffected and it's "just" money, but that would still go against the cap, right? How criminal conviction(s) might affect guaranteed money and cap hit is something lawyers for both sides will be pouring over.
The best thing we can do is resist the temptation to speculate.
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 10:03 am
Acting rashly is exactly what 1265 should NOT do. Of course, inaction becomes its own problem, given enough time ...
BamaPackFan
May 29, 2026 at 12:03 pm
I agree the team should have plan B in the wings, but you just said the team should cut bait. Really? Fire Josh Jacobs before his day in court. If the Packers fire him, without any real proof of guilt, and he is found not guilty or no charges are even brought, he should sue my beloved Packers for a bucketload. Both years remaining on his contract plus reputational destruction. Get real. What if it turns out that his accuser is a gold digging Ho. She is an Instagram influencer with the chosen title of Ashe Cash, I mean Kashe. How can she gain recognition, name ID and followers quicker than ACCUSING a famous football player? Check yourself.
dobber
May 27, 2026 at 07:57 am
There are plenty of misbehaviors the league will "tolerate", but domestic violence (or whatever similar legal terms are used in different states) is one that most teams and GMs won't mess with. Most won't deal with the public blowback of it, even if it turns out to be dismissed or no charges are pressed. His chances of hanging are better because he's under contract (if he were on the open market, he'd be lucky to find a landing place anytime soon) if this "passes", but I'd say he's likely done in GB.
The Packers are supposedly built to run the football and all that rides on having a back who can protect and who can run through contact (because the OL has been so spotty). I suspect we'll see a couple FA RB in GB in the short term as this shakes out. There aren't any veteran backs out there that offer what 8 did and the Packers would be fools to rely on Marshawn Lloyd. They might swing a deal for someone hiding on another teams' depth chart. A cut on Jacobs likely saves enough cap space to make a signing or trade and still be cap-neutral.
More goes on the backs of 10 and the pass catchers.
Coldworld
May 27, 2026 at 10:03 am
Even if no charges are filed he should lose his career? That would be a recipe for every gold digger or bitter ex to have the power to destroy anyone, no matter who was the aggressor or if anyone actually was.
Stop, think, draw a breath please! That kind of response is exactly why we have due process protections and why they extend to the NFL and similar. That was what the Cephus case reiterated very plainly, as I’m sure the NFL knows.
PeteK
May 28, 2026 at 08:30 am
Isn't settling out of court an indication of SOME culpability?
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 10:09 am
We're actually built to be more of a pass-first offense than MLF preferred last season, but this offense is neutered with no credible running threat :(
golfpacker61
May 27, 2026 at 10:30 am
Wouldn't it be an odd ending if Emmanuel Wilson gets cut, he is the #4 RB in Seattle now, and ends up back in GB for vet minimum. There could be worse outcomes than that.
"There aren't any veteran backs out there that offer what 8 did and the Packers would be fools to rely on Marshawn Lloyd."
There also are not a lot of vet RBs making more money than Jacobs. This incident moves up the timeline of replacing a 30year old RB, which probably would have happened anyway in 2027.
Best options?
Promote from within. Strong & Martinez are as ready as they'll ever be.
Swing a trade-Trey Benson is suposedly available in Arizona. #3 RB in 2024 draft.
Offer a late round pick for the Jets RB3-Braelon Allen.
Worst option?
Wait 30-45 days and see who gets thrown on the RB scrapheap. This would be ok if we were adding RB depth, but not ok for replaceing RB1.
Boneman
May 27, 2026 at 08:07 am
I read that there was a 3 day investigation after the initial complaint. That isn't a good sign for Jacobs. They kept it under wraps as long as they could in a land where players are like royalty. What is up with strangulation? Just plain old assault and battery isn't enough anymore, now you have to choke someone? This garbage makes me sick, Gute better start making a contingency plan.
Coldworld
May 27, 2026 at 09:55 am
The real investigation hasn't really begun. The police will have viewed the scene, taken visible evidence and statements and proceeded from those to file charges to submit to the prosecutor having determined that there was an altercation and that allegations have been made.
A judge would issue a warrant based on those facts in a domestic violence situation. No one has yet substantiated that and the charges themselves are not of a sort that suggest there was obvious visual substantiation of anything other than a heated argument (nothing that requires evidence if immediate identifiable harm by the police, such as a cut needing stitches or reasonable suspicion of concussion).
It’s kind of scary how few know how this actually works and how little it ca. take. That’s not to minimize the severity of what could have taken place or the difficulties facing the police confronting genuine domestic violence. Those are the reasons it’s become so easy to get to where we are now, on the principle that it’s the only way to protect in the aftermath and better to err against the supposedly more threatening party initially. Now we need to see if that’s credible in this instance in the eyes of the prosecutors to any extent as the investigation proceeds and the events are unraveled.
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 10:14 am
Au contraire, that there was no arrest and he was allowed to remain under his own recognizance until turning himself in two days later is a VERY good sign for Mr Jacobs. It states he was not considered a danger to anyone which is basically unprecedented for a DV case. This is more than enough to raise an eyebrow, it's extremely fishy ...
golfpacker61
May 27, 2026 at 10:36 am
Pro athletes and rich people in general are treated differently than the average person. Famous athletes in particular are treated differently and get special treatment in their given cities. The law enforcement people are in a lose/lose situation in most of these cases.
I remember the Kobe Bryant rape case and thinking how badly the victim was treated. Rich and famous get special treatment and come out on top more than they should. That's why most victims don't even bother to come forward.
LeotisHarris
May 27, 2026 at 08:17 am
In the short time this story has been flying around the internet, many startling facts about domestic violence have been offered by various authors. Most disturbing, at least to me, domestic violence victims who experience non-fatal strangulation by an intimate partner are 750% more likely to be murdered by that partner in the future.
I hope Jacob's partner has the courage to follow this through, and that Jacobs get every opportunity to defend himself.
Coldworld
May 27, 2026 at 10:13 am
Which is in significant part why the strangulation/suffocation felony does not have a requirement to prove injury. The down side of that is that it is very easy to allege, but history suggests that’s a small price to pay. In fact, Wis. Stat. 968.075 explicitly prohibits police from basing an arrest decision solely on the absence of visible indications of injury. “a law enforcement officer’s decision not to arrest under this section may not be based solely upon the absence of visible indications of injury or impairment.”
What that means is, if it’s claimed they have to assume it occurred at the time of arrest. If that makes us uncomfortable (it should), it’s better than the alternative you point out, but not necessarily for Jacobs right now.
Something else to chew on here is that an officer is required to make a determination as to who is the dominant aggressor if contact/harm is alleged (“the most significant, but not necessarily the first, aggressor in a domestic abuse incident“). “it is generally not appropriate for a law enforcement officer to arrest anyone under par. (a) other than the predominant aggressor.” I will give you three guesses who is going to be the wise call as the predominant aggressor in this type of encounter since Jacobs was not hospitalized.
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 10:23 am
I think you should take that 750% statistic and, not to put too fine a point on this, throw it out. Completely.
Our government is 100% incompetent and incapable of compiling such information and disseminating it to the public. For a combination of reasons. Especially when it comes to crime statistics.
In terms of whoever the alleged victim is, you've already issued the verdict as the court of public opinion that it's his partner. You don't know that. At all.
Further, in what violent crime scene is no arrest made and the perp is allowed to just casually turn himself in, two days later? You CANNOT make that make sense! This is beyond fishy ...
Starrbrite
May 27, 2026 at 12:04 pm
I’m with Sic in the questionable zone. These things aren’t often as they appear—accusations—allegations can run wild.
Not defending anyone—there are abusers and gold diggers alike in these situations. What’s the truth—??
LeotisHarris
May 27, 2026 at 02:01 pm
Sic, the study referenced in the article I read is cited on the allianceforhope.org website. I wasn't familiar with the organization, or the unique form of injury choking inflicts (both physical and psychological). Very informative. It's interesting that you assumed it was government data.
I think charges of domestic violence narrow the alleged victim pool down for us. But, you're right. I don't know that. At. All. I shall try to be more responsible with my opinions when wading into the court of public opinion.
golfpacker61
May 27, 2026 at 08:28 am
OK, yes in this country you are 'Presumed" to be innocent "until" you are found guilty. And if you have money and are rich, you have a much better chance of being "found innocent" than some poor, average bastard does. That's just the way it works in real life. Rich people have to be caught "red-handed with a hand-in-the-proverbial-cookie-jar" to have even a 50% chance of being convicted of a crime even if they are guilty. Lawyers don't care what they have to do to make the "victim" look bad as long as they get their $$$. Let's not kid ourselves, there are very few real life "Ken & Barbie" perfect relationships. Anyone who has been in a relationship has had disagreements, but most don't turn physical, or turn to "Strangulation." This is a huge stain on Jacobs no matter what happens going forward. It seems small compared to what the victim is enduring, but this will have a huge effect on the Packers team and reputation going forward because the team will get sued by somebody over this.
That being said, the question needs to be asked how this legally affects GB. "What if he is found guilty?" As far as his contract with the Packers goes, would this legally void Jacobs remaining 2 years of his contract? Is there wording in a standard contract that pertains to crimes being committed that protects the teams. These are the legal questions that have to be asked today. The Packers need to protect themselves.
This is a very serious thing to happen to Jacobs and the Packers team. The team is caught between a rock and a hard place while the incident plays out. They have to support the player but also have to have sympathy for the other person, the victim. There is no good time for something like this to happen, but it's way better to have this happen in the off-season than mid-year. GB needs to protect the team by finding more RB help now.
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 10:36 am
"This is a huge stain on Jacobs no matter what happens going forward."
The legal phrase for this is that once a man is accused of certain crimes, he has no defense.
Thank God that Court bias that began with OJ's trial is weakening, which doesn't mean that We the People are likely to ever learn facts or see justice done. You remember the College lacrosse team that was accused of rape? Those charges were all found to be false. Your words suggest you are unable to process this reality.
The fact is, we don't know what happened. Create in your mind some circumstance, any circumstance at all, in which a violent crime scene results in the perpetrator allowed to remain free until he casually turns himself in two days later as happened here. You can't do it! I dare you. I double dare you. You can NOT make that make sense, it just doesn't happen. Something doesn't add up ...
Packerpasty
May 27, 2026 at 08:29 am
Sounds like a whole lot of people cant accept the fact , or dont want to accept the fact, that one of their sports hero's could possibly have done something like this...would all these people jump to defend some average guy?? Probably not...people more worried about what it does to the team than anything else...
Cheezehead72
May 27, 2026 at 08:52 am
This is one of the reasons I do not and will not ever own a jersey. I am not a fan of players. I am a Packers fan. My kids have asked me what jersey I want for a present and my answer was always none. They know if they get me one I will not wear it.
Speaking of defending average guys I hate seeing teachers being arrested for inapproprate activities with students for many reasons but one is the public has already tried and hung the teacher. How many of these cases end up being false accusations because the student was mad at the teacher. I try hard to withhold my opinion until the dust settles but yes I am human and cannot always do that.
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 10:46 am
Statistics demonstrate that adults working with children are far more likely to be predisposed to being predators than the rest of society. Not surprising, really. "How can you ever know?" An innocent person goes to great lengths to avoid even just the appearance of evil, otherwise they are a fool. It's not difficult. No teacher is ever alone with a child while teaching their whole class. If there's ever cause to be alone with a student, that's probably discipline as in "I need to have a word with you after class." If this can safely be kept short I don't know, but otherwise any teacher should make it a point to have another adult present.
Too easy to avoid all possibility of impropriety. Regardless what their predispositions might be. Really sad that we have an epidemic of failing such basic common sense.
GregC
May 27, 2026 at 09:22 am
So far everyone in this comment thread has been open to the possibility that Jacobs actually did the things he has been accused of doing.
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 10:47 am
How many can't entertain any possibility that the charges are false and he's actually innocent until proven guilty?
Coldworld
May 27, 2026 at 08:32 am
I would just point out that these are not formal charges yet. In Wisconsin the police do not have that authority. A warrant was issued on an extremely low bar standard which effectively only requires some evidence of a heated argument occurring and allegations being made by one party.
2/3 of arrests for domestic violence never result in prosecution. What arrest does is trigger the prosecutors to have 72 hours to decide if there is enough evidence to file formal charges. Even if those are filed, there is no guarantee that they will find enough to proceed to actual Prosecution, its just really the start of the process of a true investigation. About 1/3 who are prosecuted are not convicted. Of those who are, 80% are only convicted of a misdemeanor.
As to the charges, in Wisconsin strangulation is automatically a felony charge. It also does not require any showing of medically identifiable physical harm. The interesting one is battery, because there are more than one level of that. The basic one here is one that requires little more than intentional contact in the context of a heated altercation. As such it doesn’t necessitate the existence of obvious injuries. That means it too may well be based upon a statement not visible hurt. If he’d done her significant visible damage, this charge would be upgraded.
So what do we know. He got into it with his girlfriend, it became heated, someone called the cops (inside the house or a neighbor). She has made statements alleging he put hands on her around the neck and shoulder area. She was not obviously visibly injured in any significant way. A judge was persuaded that there was evidence of a heated domestic altercation such that allegations of harm were plausible in the light of situational context (mess, neighbors hearing, statements of Jacobs potentially). Thus a warrant was issued.
That’s it. It’s not much to go on. Certainly it’s not proof of anything let alone capable of sustaining charges without much more. That’s not to say it’s not what many have left to conclude, just that it might also be completely vindictive bullshit at this point. It’s even possible that she was the instigator. The cops will, rightly, have a heavy presumption against the larger participant at this point.
The moral is, don’t leap to conclusions. It’s far too early to know if there is anything for the league or justice system to really get its teeth into. Don’t hang a guy for this and all of us may want to ponder if we’ve ever put ourselves in a situation where we could be in the same boat. My guess is more than like to admit it and, for the most part the reason it’s that easy to get in this situation is because it’s been so hard to protect victims unless the law slants heavily towards these kind of early presumptions.
Let’s wait, see what happens and keep open minds. Mob justice is no more edifying or justifiable than beating one’s partner. Bad news, sad news, but the knee-jerk response is as chilling as the police allegations are for me.
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 10:51 am
Well put. Plus, you clarified several legal issues I did not know.
Thank you
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 11:15 am
Looking for details, the closest I could find was this:
"No details have been given regarding the victim or their identity."
Yet you state "He got into it with his girlfriend, it became heated, someone called the cops (inside the house or a neighbor). She has made statements alleging he put hands on her around the neck and shoulder area."
Where did you find this?
Coldworld
May 27, 2026 at 11:53 am
Supposition derived from background (I’m not a prosecutor or defender, so I’m not claiming professional hands on experience), charges as written in the published statement (which tell more than is obvious to most if you know what they signify), understanding of some of the statutes and their implications and timeline publicized. Not based on any explicitly released additional information.
I should point out that I’m not certain of the identity of the other party either. However, it’s an example because the domestic violence tag necessarily statutorily limits the options. I am assuming he is not acting as a caregiver to another family member, but that is possible, I just discounted it. His parents are alive I believe. I not aware of Jacobs ever having married, but he apparently does have a child from a former relationship some years severed. That leaves 2 options, his child’s mother or a current girlfriend, one of which he is known to have been living with recently. Then it’s an educated guess.
Starrbrite
May 27, 2026 at 08:19 pm
Excellent points CW. Well summarized.
LambeauPlain
May 27, 2026 at 08:33 am
After another participation trophy year with a 9-8-1 record, backing into another "one and done playoff run", many have Curbed their Enthusiasm for the 2026 version of LaFleur's Packers.
Fans seem more ambivalent than usual since Policy enshrined "Murphy's Law by Football Committee", realizing the status quo is alive and well, concerns about the trenches on both sides of the ball, and lingering questions about availability of key players.
JJ just blew a hole in the key player "availability" roster. Parsons, Kraft, Wyatt, Tom, Watson, Lloyd and now Jacobs.
Is there time to sort these things out?
Meanwhile, Brewers are leading their division and looking good...
Since'61
May 27, 2026 at 09:37 am
The fact that Jacobs turned himself in tells me that the victim was not seriously injured if at all. If the victim was injured the police would not have waited for him to turn himself in. It also does not seem that charges have been filed or an arraignment should been scheduled for either today or tomorrow (which could still happen).
Jacobs obviously should have the resources to make bail if that becomes necessary. We will not hear Jacobs side of the story unless or until the case (if any) goes to trial as his attorney will no doubt tell him not to speak with anyone except them about the case. This could all be a long term coming depending on how the attorneys for both sides play this out.
Bottom line is that I am an "innocent until proven guilty" person and I believe that everyone deserves due process. I also believe that neither the league nor the Packers should take any action (suspension) or release from the team until this is adjudicated in the court if it gets that far. However as many others here have already stated if any of this is true I don't want Jacobs anywhere near the Packers again. As frustrating as this is we are in a wait and see period.
Thanks, Since '61
Starrbrite
May 27, 2026 at 09:56 am
Domestic situation(s) where the entire truth is often not revealed.
I was a Fed agent for 35 yrs and a city cop previous to becoming a special agent.
Originally (‘70s-‘80s), the police merely attempted to play mediator and calm the situation. Asking one of the combatants to depart; usually the male. Then the policies and/or laws changed. The police now generally arrest one of the violaters. The accusations are always murky—.
I recall responding to a domestic circa 1979. When we arrived, we found the house was a wreck and looked like a knife/utensil throwing contest. The wife was pregnant and the spouses screamed at each other with murder in their hearts. When my partner and I began to remove the male from the house (not arrest), the pregnant female turned on us jumped on my back knocking me to the ground and then attempted to stab me with a fork; most of us in law enforcement didn’t wear vests then.
We arrested the female and then the male turned on us. I still don’t know which spouse was the initial instigator.
Anyway, wasn’t my best day.
I think you understand my point about domestic violence.
Go Packers!!!
SicSemperTyrannis
May 27, 2026 at 10:55 am
I was not expecting that turn of events! That's something you never forget
dobber
May 27, 2026 at 12:01 pm
Another reminder of what our first responders do every day.
Be well, SB!
Starrbrite
May 27, 2026 at 08:21 pm
Gracias Dobby.
HarryHodag
May 28, 2026 at 06:30 am
Starrbrite-
I've known many law enforcement folks over the years and almost all of them said DV was near or at the top of the events they hated the most. The incident you reported is not uncommon. One cop I knew simply arrested both parties, thinking the victim would be safer inside the jail until it could be sorted out. I don't know if I agree but it showed how hard it is to assess right from wrong. One of the things contributing to the problem was alcohol(mostly) or drugs. Often the people involved kissed and made up then in a few weeks it started all over again.
Starrbrite
May 28, 2026 at 08:46 pm
Absolutely correct Harry—you described it perfectly.
NFLfan
May 27, 2026 at 10:20 am
Sadly, the fact that this situation involved a noticeable ruckus and property damage alone is poor optics for the Packer brand. I really like josh and feel he is the heart of the team but I don't think he will over-come this and will be let go
Coldworld
May 27, 2026 at 10:53 am
Property damage could be nothing more than a broken bracelet or coffee cup. It was damaged, it was property. If that damage occurred during a misdemeanor then it’s misdemeanor property damage under the law (it could be more if more significant).
NFLfan
May 27, 2026 at 11:05 am
There was enough mayhem going on that someone called the police-this situation is on different level than the McManus case. If we were talking about the Chiefs or Vikings, teams with a higher 'tolerance' for aberrant behavior,I would not feel this way but the Packers don't like this sort of thing.
Coldworld
May 27, 2026 at 11:13 am
People call the police for shouting by neighbors or as part of the oneupmanship during the argument or after it if one party flees leaving the other still angry. Come on, it’s not hard to imagine. Jumping to conclusions is prevalent today. Don’t add to that.
splitpea1
May 27, 2026 at 11:05 am
Eveeryone should just be patient and wait for the facts.
Alberta_Packer
May 27, 2026 at 11:15 am
With Jacobs - perhaps not all is as it seems.
The 2 most prevalent criminal charges in the NFL are DUIs and Domestic Violence. Jacobs has now been arrested for both. A DUI in 2021 - pleaded down to a single misdemeanor count of failure to exercise due care/duty of driver to decrease speed. His penance was community service and a fine.
Today he is facing charges of Domestic Violence. Unless all charges are dropped - there will be some degree of reputational damage - which could adversely impact both the player and the Packers.
It would be prudent for the Packers to form a RB contingency plan.
Coldworld
May 27, 2026 at 12:00 pm
The DUI was dismissed because he was found to be under the legal limit and thus it was disproven. He did have some minor community service relating to the underlying accident, but not the DUI charge.
Alberta_Packer
May 27, 2026 at 12:26 pm
I see it as a "technicality" - that has more to do with money than justice. Paying expensive lawyers has - time and time again - shown that justice is a tiered commodity. Moreover I am assuming that there was other evidence that resulted in his arrest. Also penalties did stem from his arrest. While his DUI was dismissed - his arrest still remains on record - which is telling for me.
Coldworld
May 27, 2026 at 02:10 pm
If you are not over the limit you are conclusively not driving under the influence by law. It’s black and white. Simple and stark and that charge can not by law remain on his record. Other charges related to the accident may well be.
Alberta_Packer
May 27, 2026 at 05:58 pm
My guess is that they had ample other evidence to charge him. Otherwise Jacobs and his lawyer(s) would not have agreed to the lower charges. Nor did the Judge dismiss the case solely on his breathalyzer reading. Also I think that his lawyers wanted to ensure that all the charges were classified as misdemeanors - not felonies. Bottom line is that Jacobs actions did result in an increased risk to life and damage to physical property.
Coldworld
May 27, 2026 at 06:23 pm
My guess is he had other charges related to his driving. Sometimes it’s that simple.
Alberta_Packer
May 27, 2026 at 11:29 pm
Right. Standard Field Sobriety Tests (SFSTs) are physical and cognitive roadside assessments used to establish grounds for a DUI arrest. A breathalyzer is just one of those tests.
golfpacker61
May 27, 2026 at 04:18 pm
Jacobs was also a star at Alabama. That could also have something to do with the DUI being dismissed.
PackerBackerAZ
May 27, 2026 at 01:15 pm
Why can't everyone understand and accept that people arrested, in this country, are presumed innocent until proven guilty in court? You can bandy about the probable cause of his arrest, but that isn't proof of guilt. All those that want to punish Jacobs, without due process, are advocating against the constitution. Un-American activity by one and all.
golfpacker61
May 27, 2026 at 04:22 pm
If Jacobs is guilty AZ, then he deserves to be punished. He has also embarressed the Green Bay Packers with this episode. That will more than likely get him released from the team. Nobody has said we should ignore the constitution, but a majority don't want him as a Packer now.
PackerBackerAZ
May 27, 2026 at 05:00 pm
Since he's presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, why don't the majority want him on the team? They're proposing punishment for Jacobs, without due process, which is against the constitution of the United States.
If anyone levies an accusation against a celebrity, albeit false, they're found guilty, by the public majority, as soon as it's reported. That's not what the United States is supposed to be about. Unfortunately, as you state, the majority on this site have found Jacobs guilty without any evidence presented, going to trial or benefit of doubt. Only his arrest to condemn him. How many, in these United States, have been arrested and condemned while being innocent?
RacineTom
May 27, 2026 at 05:03 pm
To say that rich and famous people are often victims of false accusations is a disgusting route to take here. Rich and famous people are actually most likely to commit the types of crimes that Jacobs is accused of. It's routine for men in sports and politics and they are usually guilty even though they are not always convicted. It may be a "he said she said" case with no charges being filed but right now I believe the victim and that probably wont change. Wake up people. We know how things work in this country.
MilkCan44
May 28, 2026 at 12:03 am
Pro athletes are stupid with some of the choices they make in Partners. Their wives and girlfriends are stupid in thinking there won't be a long line of other women hoping to replace them.
Ferrari-Driver
May 28, 2026 at 04:25 pm
If my wife beats me up at home, I will have it documented on the video surveillance system. Those systems are quite common nowadays, so perhaps Jacobs has his home quipped with a similar system and that will go a long way in determining the outcome of this incident.
BamaPackFan
May 29, 2026 at 11:46 am
Innocent until PROVEN guilty is the standard in this great Country. Josh Jacobs doesn't have to prove he didn't commit the crime. The burden of proof is on his accuser. That doesn't stop people from jumping to conclusions, but if we are using the court of public opinion standard, here's mine. Josh has always presented himself as a decent, thoughtful and respectable person. His accuser is an Instagram influencer who goes by Ashe KASHE as in (cash). The world is full of gold-digging women looking for that cash (Kashe?). If I have a benefit of the doubt to give, it goes to Josh. The Law requires that, and so does the evidence of how this man has handled himself. He deserves that much.