What Does Javon Hargrave Have Left In The Tank?

Flashback: It’s the year 2016. Before the draft that year, there was a strong sense of optimism surrounding that year’s depth at defensive tackle. Ten years later, it turns out that optimism was well-founded. How’s this for a list of names? DeForest Buckner. Sheldon Rankins. Jarran Reed. Chris Jones. Vernon Butler. Kenny Clark. Andrew Billings. Maliek Collins. DJ Reader. And finally, Javon Hargrave.

Hargrave isn’t the most decorated veteran from that class (that’d be Chris Jones, who is probably a future hall of famer), but Hargrave would have a very solid claim to being the second.

Hargrave was a small school guy, having attended South Carolina State University, a member of the FCS MEAC conference. While there, Hargrave was highly productive, winning that conference’s DPOY award in 2024 and 2015. Making the jump from an FCS level of competition is a daunting task, but Hargrave quickly proved that he belonged when he entered the scouting circuit. He impressed at the combine, showed out at the East-West Shrine Bowl, and continued his stellar play when he was called up to the Senior Bowl. Hargrave parlayed all that into a third round selection by the Pittsburgh Steelers at the 89th overall slot.

From a pre-draft scouting report on Hargrave: “At his best, Hargrave looks like a shorter Albert Haynesworth. Not the Redskins version, but the Titans version that could single handedly destroy the pocket on any given down. Not many players have the ability to completely disrupt the entire offense from the inside, but Hargrave has proven on multiple occasions that he can do that and more. At 6-1, Hargrave is a much more stout player than he shows on film. He has the ability to play lower than the taller offensive linemen he will face on a daily basis. That gives him an advantage that should even out his lack of arm length. Hargrave’s frame and arm length may allow him to get man-handled at times if he cannot use his quickness to overtake an offensive lineman. When he is stopped in his tracks, Hargrave has trouble getting started again quickly.

While in Pittsburg, Hargrave won the team’s starting nose tackle job in training camp and never looked back. In his first four years with the Steelers, Hargrave was regarded as a high end run defender and solid pass rusher. Over 52 games in four seasons, Hargrave logged 14.5 sacks, 22 TFLs and 22 QB hits. Hargrave was a dominant force, and signed with the Eagles in 2020. What’s forgotten now is that, at the time, this wasn’t necessarily considered a homerun hit. Mixed reviews on the signing were based on the Eagles’ lack of perceived “need” along the defensive line, Hargrave’s cost and his fit. The Eagles had just finished as the fourth best team in the league at defending the run, had signed Malik Jackson a year earlier, and had other holes to fill.

While Hargrave’s overall success with the Eagles is evident (resulting in a pro-bowl selection in 2021 and enormous success for the team), something interesting did happen for Hargrave while in Philadelphia: He almost immediately lost his reputation as a solid run defender.

While in Pittsburg, Hargrave’s run defense grades year by year from PFF: 63.8, 68.4, 78.5, and 77.2. Then, from 2020 on: 48.1, 30.1, 49.0, 51.4, 44.7, 57.3. This came alongside an explosion in pass rush production, which culminated in back to back 91+ grades in that area in 2021 / 2022, with ten and twelve sacks respectively. Hargrave was an absolute force on the interior for the Eagles, and it coincided with a clear separation of responsibilities at the line of scrimmage. By turning Hargrave into a penetrating, QB hunting specialist, the Eagles leaned into his abilities. In his last season with the Steelers, Hargrave played 178 total snaps at nose tackle, compared to just the 21 snaps there in the very next season (278 snaps at NT across his entire time with the Eagles). This trend has continued into his time with the 49ers and Vikings, to the point where considering him to be any sort of NT solution would be disingenuous.

Instead, what we as Packers fans should be considering him to be is a pretty straight 1-for-1 replacement for Colby Wooden.

The usage lines up. In 2025, the Packers used Wooden as a NT on 27% of his total snaps, similar but slightly higher than to Hargraves’ total career % there. Wooden’s attempts to beef up and play more nose tackle for the Packers last year was admirable, but ultimately fell short of an effective benchmark. Continuing to use PFF as a snapshot of play quality, Wooden’s career numbers fall short of where Hargrave’s have been, even in his worst years. In 2025, Wooden’s snap count exploded up to 622 snaps from 260 the previous year, but only logged a 50.6 overall grade, with 46.4 run defense and 59.1 pass rush grades supporting our conclusion.

As the Packers look to round out their defensive line room with more of a  true nose tackle type in rookie Chris McCellean, fans can rest assured that Hargrave will be an effective 3-tech to complement Micah Parsons, Devonte Wyatt and Lukas Van Ness. It’s probably a bit reckless to assume that a reunion with his former defensive coordinator Johnathan Gannon could bring out a 2021/2022 version of himself, but the impact that having that kind of prior connection shouldn’t be dismissed out of hand.

Neither should the motivation that comes from being released by the 49ers and Vikings in back to back seasons. From a recent article by Bill Huber of Packers On SI: “Man, just that challenge,” he said of what motivates him to keep grinding. “I think right now, being later in my career, it’s the stink of, ‘Does he got it anymore?’ I don’t want to say it’s just trying to prove people wrong, but I just always loved challenges. I just want to show I’ve still got it – still got that juice, still got what it takes to play at a high level in this league. For me, that’s just been my focus is locking in this offseason, working out, eating right and trying to have one of my better seasons.”

Should the Packers be able to unlock the best possible version of a 33-year-old Hargrave, the Packers’ defensive line could have the first pair of effective defensive tackles in a long time, and Hargrave could be an effective piece for navigating those first few games that Green Bay will be without Micah Parsons.

In any case, Hargrave also brings a slice of what I’ve been begging the Packers to add to their locker room: veteran, championship-level experience. Hargrave has gone to the Super Bowl twice, he’s seen it all in this league, and he knows what it takes to get a defense over the hump. For the Packers, that might just be the key missing ingredient.

 

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stockholder's picture

June 22, 2026 at 06:17 am

Hargrave suffered a partially torn right tricep.
And hasn't been the same player since.
So it's just a little a little more than the;
"We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing.”
Gute got a rotational piece.
The next best alternative isn't Hargrove.
And comparing him to Wooden ;
isn't a one for one win.
The true win will be if he doesn't announce his retirement.

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golfpacker61's picture

June 22, 2026 at 10:37 am

At least Hargraves has actually done it in the NFL Stock, Wooden hasn't and will always be a JAG. Hargraves HAS been a star and his smarts and experience should make him above average and an upgrade in GB. He isn't going to be the player he was in Pittsburgh & Philly, we don't need that. Why don't you try not being 100% negative all the time.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

June 22, 2026 at 11:01 am

16 yrs ZERO SB.
May be the truth is you are too much of a dreamer on nothing.

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stockholder's picture

June 22, 2026 at 11:08 am

You're only as good as your last game.
DO YOU GET THAT?

The quote about "old" was from Reggie WHITE.

HE isn't. ...... we don't need that? ??????
Since when? Dude he's a Green Bay packer.
Great expectations. Don't win super-bowls.

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jannes bjornson's picture

June 22, 2026 at 02:37 pm

This brain trust has never taken the NT position seriously. See if somebody shows up after Summer Session, or the Inside group will be bounced around by dominant running teams. The deal with veteran signees is always the injury bug.

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stockholder's picture

June 22, 2026 at 03:53 pm

Gute didn't because he paid Clark.

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GregC's picture

June 22, 2026 at 07:15 am

Interesting career overview except that it leaves out the past two seasons, which included a major injury in 2024 and a performance that his team was not happy with in 2025. I've read that the Vikings used Hargrave as a true nose tackle, which may not be the best fit for him at this point, and which he did not enjoy. I'm thinking the Packers will have a rotation at nose tackle this year, with Stackhouse, McClellan, and Hargrave taking turns. I was hoping for one big monster who could do it all, but those guys are rare, and there were none available to the Packers this year.

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Guam's picture

June 22, 2026 at 07:34 am

Barring injury, I doubt we will see Hargrave at NT very much. The Packers have Stackhouse, McClellan, Ford and Riley as NTs and that should be sufficient. I think Hargrave will be a 3T defensive tackle in Gannon's 3-4 along with Wyatt, Brooks and Brinson.

I think a 3T DT better suits Hargrave mentally and physically at this point in his career and I hope he has enough left to provide a good pass rush opposite Wyatt this season. It would be the first time in a long time the Packers had two good pass rushing DTs.

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dobber's picture

June 22, 2026 at 08:28 am

I tend to agree. I'm hoping we'll see a lot of different alignments, but Hargrave isn't a stout nose at this point--he's a 3T who will probably only play about half the snaps, and maybe not much at all on run downs. Assigning Brooks and Wooden to carry the water inside last year after injuries hit (and Clark was dealt) was a tall ask. With Wooden gone, Brooks likely seeing reduced snaps, and Wyatt hopefully returning for the start of camp, they're bigger overall up front even though they lack a true tree stump (unless Stackhouse/Ford surprise).

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Guam's picture

June 22, 2026 at 10:13 am

I wouldn't totally discount Jordan Riley at nose either. I thought he looked decent prior to his season ending injury and certainly looked better than Ford ever has. I wouldn't be surprised if Riley pushes Stackhouse hard for playing time at NT.

At 33 I don't think you want Hargrave playing lots of snaps if you want him playing well at season's end. I think he rotates with Brinson and Brooks at DT with Hargrave being in predominantly on passing downs.

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dobber's picture

June 22, 2026 at 10:20 am

They're not projecting Riley to be back until about Thanksgiving. I agree, they seemed to like him and he was playing ahead of other IDLs from about the time he came into the fold. I like him better than Ford--I think Ford is who he is at this point, which is a fringe roster player. I think the verdict is out on Stackhouse until we see how an off-season in the Packers program helps him, but I'm hopeful. He might have an uphill climb to make the 53, though.

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Guam's picture

June 22, 2026 at 10:34 am

I knew Riley would miss at least half the season but when he returns I suspect he might push his way onto the 53. McClellan is a rookie. Stackhouse is a question mark and Ford is a journeyman at best. There is room at NT for a player. I am hoping for a second year jump from Stackhouse but have no real reason to believe that will happen. He was a UDFA for reasons. Hopefully one or more of the candidates at NT step up. I really don't want to see Hargrave at NT.

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LambeauPlain's picture

June 22, 2026 at 12:12 pm

I didn't see much of anything from Riley playing in 4 games and amassing 2 total tackles, both during the bares Dec. game.

If he isn't ready until Thanksgiving, I don't see him being much a factor in 2026.

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Coldworld's picture

June 22, 2026 at 03:39 pm

Thanksgiving is probably optimistic. We may not see Riley this season. They may keep him on the PUP and leave open a very late return I suppose.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

June 22, 2026 at 07:35 am

I'm still of the opinion that the new defense isn't going to use a traditional nose tackle.
I'm expecting a lot more stunting of the front seven--which is how this roster is built:
Parsons, Cooper, Wyatt, VanNess, McClellan, Sorrell, Franklin, Dennis-Sutton, etc. are all perfect for a stunting front, and the players have already commented from camp that their "opponents won't know who is coming."

Hargrave should fit right into that defense.

I think the big dudes like Stackhouse and Ford will just be for short yardage situations.

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Guam's picture

June 22, 2026 at 07:44 am

I think NT usage will also depend on the team they are playing PEO. Baltimore ran all over the interior Packer DL last season and they had no one to stop it. Detroit and Chicago also favor strong rushing attacks that will need good NTs to help slow them down. I think Gannon will have the flexibility to structure his defense depending on what the opponent likes to do.

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dobber's picture

June 22, 2026 at 08:43 am

I'd argue that Baltimore ran at will: off-tackle, through the inside gaps. They were even getting Henry space to run wide, not just up the gut, although I agree that an anchoring DT likely makes things harder. That game was one where Baltimore just ate the Packers' lunch.

Detroit has an explosive run game, but I'll point out that the Packers had no trouble containing them last year, although that was likely in part to their injuries and realignment to their IOL. Most of Chicago's run came from second half comeback mode where they already had the Packers on their heels...mostly running at the ends.

I'm not arguing that the Packers don't need help on the DL, but I am saying that they were pretty good until Wyatt got hurt. Parsons going out was the breaking point.

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June 22, 2026 at 09:13 am

They had a pulverizing lead blocker who wrought havoc outside the tackles. A novel idea that I wish we had shown signs of grasping this off season. It was, however, not necessary between the tackles. If you can’t fix that it pulls the D inside and thus has to be the area shored up first. Their FB just allowed them to get outside too and turn a beating into a humiliation.

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June 22, 2026 at 09:49 am

I agree that things will be situational, Guam.

However, I do think they will try to use stunts and run blitzes even against good running teams. I think Gannon would take a few explosives if it means also getting a bunch of TFLs.

With Franklin, McKinney, and Williams (and Bullard) we have a pretty good "safety net" to limit explosives when we do risky run blitzes. Piling a bunch of beef on the DL just opens you up to being burned by today's passing attacks.

I think Gannon will be aggressive until it is proven to not work. The roster is built for it.

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Guam's picture

June 22, 2026 at 10:25 am

Barring injuries I think Gannon has more tools to be imaginative with his DL than Hafley could be last year. I hope they all stay healthy so Gannon can experiment during the season. I like defenses that can force offenses away from what they want to do - whether that is through creative blitzes or lots of beef up front. Make they OC adjust his game plan rather than the OC controlling the tempo and style of the game. Gannon did that in Philly and I think he might have the tools to do it here.

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Coldworld's picture

June 22, 2026 at 08:13 am

Hargrave does not have to be great. He just has to be better than a miscast and overmatched Wooden. Hargrave has long been better penetrating. That he’s openly admitted that’s what he enjoys may speak to motivation but motivation for veterans is not insignificant.

Wooden was supposed to be more like Hargrave turned out to be, primarily a disruptive depth player. He was never able to disrupt so, despite his small size they moved him inside and hopped his relative mobility would hold up. In some circumstances it did, temporarily. Until he wore down and teams figured out he could just be driven back. As a primarily mixed to passing down depth piece, Wooden may suffice. What we saw was the always seemingly likely made obvious.

Hargrave still provides more disruption and, in limited circumstances or against particular opponents, is still a better anchor than Wooden who can rotate inside. His best role and the one that motivated him is next to a DT though, not being one full time. If we want Anchor, then him and McLellan outside of Stackhouse or Ford is a big step up on last year even if Hargrave is just decent. That’s a lot more stout than anything we were putting out last year with 4 IDL against heavy run sets.

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dobber's picture

June 22, 2026 at 10:07 am

"He just has to be better than a miscast and overmatched Wooden. "

I'd argue improvement might hinge on finding someone in this group who measurably better than Brooks, too, even though the Brooks-Wyatt combo was adequate over the first half of last season (with Parsons and Gary on the ends).

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Coldworld's picture

June 22, 2026 at 03:48 pm

I could see Brooks being traded/exchanged/waived. I’ve always liked what he brings as a depth disrupter in the passing game, but his run play has never been good or gotten noticeably better. Now they have Wyatt, Hargrave, McClellan and Brinson who can penetrate and do more and they may use LVN before Brooks in the obvious passing situations well.

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Turophile's picture

June 22, 2026 at 08:57 am

What Does Javon Hargrave have Left In The Tank ?

Not as much as he had before The Strait of Hormuz happened.

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Coldworld's picture

June 22, 2026 at 09:06 am

6,500 years is worryingly superannuated, even for a DL.

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LambeauPlain's picture

June 22, 2026 at 12:15 pm

His full name is Javon Methuselah Hargrave.

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Leatherhead's picture

June 22, 2026 at 10:03 am

I think the Packers will play Wyatt the most, then Brooks, then Hargrave. I also think Brinson is going to be player for us this year. I've spent some time this offseason watching what little video there is on him and he looks like a player to me. And of course, we have Stackhouse, who might be better this year.

Hargrave doesn't need to play 40 snaps. He'll probably play around 25 snaps, and there's no reason for him to run out of gas.

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dobber's picture

June 22, 2026 at 10:17 am

I think he'll be around 30 or so, which isn't meaningfully far off 25. That's almost a snap-for-snap replacement of Wooden. He averaged about 33.5 for the Vikings last year playing with Redmond (who graded out really well against the run) and Jonathan Allen (who did not).

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Leatherhead's picture

June 22, 2026 at 10:47 am

I really do see this as just replacing Wooden with Hargrave. I liked Wooden because he stayed healthy and worked hard.

I like that the Packers are adding vets. I don't want to mention that thing that happened in Chicago last season, but I can't help but believe that some more vets in the huddle might have helped steady the ship enough for us to finish.

All of our own guys have another year of experience, and we've added guys like Hargrave and St. Juste and Franklin. Maybe, just maybe, if we're on the road and people are screaming and it's cold and we're hurt and the refs are boning us, we'll be able to keep our shit together and finish off the opponent.

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the_gavia_pass's picture

June 22, 2026 at 11:09 am

May be.....may be....may be....

we hope....we hope....we hope...

how can you run a franchise on may be and hope?

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Leatherhead's picture

June 22, 2026 at 03:58 pm

By acknowledging the reality that we cannot predict the future??

Look, the Packers have a plan. Whether guys stay healthy or not isn't something that they have a lot of control over.

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golfpacker61's picture

June 22, 2026 at 11:02 am

Most of us who supported the idea of trading for Parsons realized it was about more than him just getting a lot of sacks and pressures. He also makes the whole defense better because of the offensive teams focus is always on him. But Parsons has also been working hard teaching the other pass rushers to get better faster to help him and the team. I am impressed that he is also an excellent teammate.

The "teaching and coaching" bonus's GB is getting from acquiring above average veteran leadership, along with their on field performance, is also huge. Just as Parsons will make the pass rushers better, and Franklin will make the LBs better, Hargraves will have a similar impact on the DTs, especially Wyatt. Hargraves has done it at a very high level and will have an impact on Wyatt and the other DTs and they will benefit from him if they lust listen.

Finally adding the missing piece of some veteran leadership might just be what it takes to get this always youngest team over the hump. Hopefully we have a much healthier team this year, that's the key.

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LambeauPlain's picture

June 22, 2026 at 12:29 pm

Hargrave is a good get. Sure, he's 33 but has a proven NFL track record and seems to be an exemplary teammate.

He should be a valuable chess piece for Gannon and Vince Oghobaase and a mentor for the young guys. Wyatt, Hargrave, Brooks, McClellan, Brinson, Stackhouse, Ford...lots of different talents to evaluate to play 3...often only 2 spots.

The DL and the Edge group (to be reinforced with Parsons) is far less a concern than the OL going into Camp.

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T7Steve's picture

June 22, 2026 at 01:56 pm

I can only hope that the team and coaches are as concerned as we are about the O-line and have plans about this. If not we're in for another disappointing season.

We have weeks to wait so I wasn't going to say anything about it in these comments unless it was brought up. The O-line problem is and has always been my biggest concern.

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Starrbrite's picture

June 22, 2026 at 06:52 pm

Exactly Lambeau—Hargrave has a proven track record. He will help the defense.

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Starrbrite's picture

June 22, 2026 at 06:48 pm

I’m with CW. Hargrave is gonna help, as is Zaire. The D will be better.
I also, as does GolfPacker, want an additional edge; Clowney would add to a very solid rotation.
Go Packers!!!

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