Top 3 at Pick 23 for the Packers
With the 2025 NFL Draft inching close, three prospects have the edge as "tier A" fits for the Packers at pick 23.

With the 2025 NFL Draft hightailing it up to Green Bay, Wisconsin in the coming week, the Green Bay Packers are left needing to address a few areas on the roster that were lackluster in 2024 and that so far have less-than-certain outlooks beyond 2025.
As Lukas Van Ness looks to fulfill his development in year three, the interior defensive line looking to tap into a source of dominance, the cornerback room needing to add some more long-term top-of-depth chart options, and the wide receiver group eying up a bounce-back season with contract decisions looming, there are a few ways the Packers could go at pick 23.
However, despite all the smoke screens teams put out, as late hype builds around players, profiles are rounded out, and final boxes are checked in top-30 visits, it's becoming more clear who could be sitting atop the Packers draft board.
Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon
The hype around Derrick Harmon has only grown stronger as the draft approaches. And rightfully so.
Flick on Harmon's tape, and it won't take more than a few plays to realize his quick first step, tenacious play style, ability to disengage off blocks, and true disruptor abilities that have locked him into hearing his name called on night one.
Harmon is the type of player who could immediately remedy the Packers lack of a real presence or any type of dominance from their interior defensive line last season. Maybe it was a factor of the previous defensive line coaching or scheme asks that held back more production from the group. But it would certainly seem the Packers have quality pieces in place at DT already with Kenny Clark, Devonte Wyatt, and Karl Brooks.
Regardless, by adding Harmon, he would step in as arguably the most complete player in the group with as high of an upside to generate chaos in the face of the quarterback as any pass rusher in the draft.
Harmon enters the draft not only as a stout run defender but with the most pressures generated among defensive tackles by a wide margin last season (55), 2nd second-highest pressure rate (10.7%), and his 86.3 PFF pass rush grade led all DTs with atleast 300 pass rush snaps. In true pass rush sets, Harmon's 91.2 PFF grade perfectly matches the tape, leaving no question about it: he is the most dominant pass rush force in the entire group.
Derrick Harmon go vroom pic.twitter.com/NH81WNWwrW
— Billy M (@BillyM_91) April 14, 2025
If the Packers plan to get their defensive line back on track, with help from technique guru and new defensive line coach DeMarcus Covington, they need to establish a true game-breaker up the middle.
While Clark is no sure bet to be around after this season and Wyatt hasn't secured a long-term position in Green Bay, the Packers could add Harmon to consume the left-behind snaps of TJ Slaton in year one and step into a prominent starter role for the next decade after that.
As Harmon brings a more complete game than the likes of Wyatt or Brooks, he'd battle for a big role on day one and would nonetheless play an important part in an improved Green Bay pass rush, no matter his depth chart listing early on.
As defensive tackle evolves back into an increasingly important position to get right in modern NFL defenses, with numerous examples of the immense impact of a game wrecker up the middle across the league, the Packers have to make sure they have a competitive plan in place to establish their own presence. Harmon satisfies that need and more.
Maxwell Hairston, CB, Kentucky
There's been some inherited concerns with Maxwell Hairston around his weight and ability to hold up in the NFL if he doesn't add to his frame, which, in theory, could potentially write him off the Packers' board in round one. But to say the Packers haven't deviated from their exact prospect mold or thresholds in the past would be incorrect.
Regardless, Hairston has apparently had no problem tacking on weight after a 179-pound showing at the Senior Bowl, recently posting a picture at 193 pounds. At this point, putting many size concerns to bed and validating that he's able to fill out his build.
In the case of Hairston, he's not just another typical athletic profile the Packers love to pursue. While the 4.28 40 time to lead the NFL Combine this year is a wildly impressive start to his profile, long-time draft expert Todd McShay also considers him the most prolific athlete in the draft behind the rare athletic phenom that is Travis Hunter. Unquestionably, landing him very high on the Packers' draft board for that reason alone.
Been pounding the Maxwell Hairston to the Packers propaganda since February. Talked about him with @AndyHermanNFL on why he’d be a great early pick.
All it took was 5 extra pounds and now it’s a very serious conversation. Great deets from @McShay13 pic.twitter.com/uojzf4UCki
— Austin Krueger (@AustinKrueger_) April 14, 2025
Hairston's talents also extend far beyond his athletic traits, and to simply compare him to any form of Eric Stokes is to refuse the tape and data that tell the story of Hairston's play.
What separates Hairston from his peers in this draft class is his scheme versatility. As a converted wide receiver early in his college career, he's displayed impressive competence in both man and zone coverages.
Versatility, specifically, is a trait the Packers hold dear when roster-building. Regardless of the coverage, Hairston has flexed ball-hawking skills with six interceptions in the last two seasons, a high IQ to anticipate routes well, and a knack for knowing when to jump routes.
Despite an impressive three forced fumbles across only 20 starts, Hairston needs to regain tackling confidence to return to his pre-injury tackling form from 2023. But he's always managed to punch above his weight class and never lost an uncanny ability to stay sticky in coverage with effortless fluidity to adjust.
As the draft approaches, the hype around Hairston's potential to land in Green Bay has gained late steam across connected media sources, including Nate Tice of Yahoo Sports, who mentioned "they like Hairston" on a recent episode of the NFL Daily Podcast.
A similar situation last unfolded with Quay Walker when the momentum connecting him to the Packers suddenly spiked in the week before the draft, and Hairston just accepted an invitation to walk the stage on draft night in Green Bay.
Kenneth Grant, NT, Michigan
Kenny Clark isn't getting any younger, his contract isn't getting any friendlier, and the Packer's current slate of young defensive tackles doesn't include a true nose tackle who can maul directly over the center.
Enter Kenneth Grant.
Whereas Devonte Wyatt and Karl Brooks are more effective 3T defensive tackles who can slide out to line up over the tackle, after the Packers let Slaton walk, they have yet to replace his snaps with another monster-sized human to be a force in run defense.
With Grant, his game clocks in polished and well-rounded, with eight sacks in the last two seasons and top-of-class run defense grades in the most ground-and-pound conference in college football (Big Ten).
At 6'3, 340 pounds, Grant has off-the-charts "first guy off the bus" size and stature. And despite not posing top athletic testing numbers among the DT group, he posted freakish numbers for a human his size that also show up on game day.
I guarantee they show this clip of Kenneth Grant when he gets drafted in April 〽️
In previous 2 seasons at Michigan:
- 8 sacks
- 50 pressures
- 39 run stops
- 87.5 Run D grade in 2024He is 6'3", 340 pounds and moves like a running back 🤯
pic.twitter.com/WFFIsD1aIr— SleeperCFB (@SleeperCFB) February 24, 2025
Grant often makes playing a true nose tackle position look easy, with numerous examples of displacing centers immediately back into a quarterback or seamlessly winning hand fights to beat a block.
It is also not to be overlooked that a player can draw as many double teams as Grant did and still post 50 pressures in two seasons, lining up almost exclusively over center. Which is an area where the Packers lacked any type of disruption from last season and would benefit immensely from having a game wrecker up the middle.
Especially as Clark's time in Green Bay nears its end, Grant carries about as high of an upside as imaginable from a true nose tackle and will be ready to step into a big role in his second year.
Most of the NFL's top defensive tackles hit stride into their second season, which is great news for Grant, who can polish his craft in a complementary role while also picking up most of the left-behind snaps from Slaton in obvious run-down situations where his game already excels.
Grant's name has been regularly tied to teams inside the top 20, so for him to land in Green Bay's lap at 23 would be an extremely enticing option for the Packers to fill a big gap for next season and beyond.
Don't Be Surprised If: Emeka Egbuka (WR - Ohio State), Mykel Williams (EDGE - Georgia)
Ohio State's all-time leader in receptions and receiving yards, Emeka Egubka is a very serious candidate to break the Packers' streak of not drafting a first-round receiver since 2002, especially after a recent top-30 visit. Not only because he plays the position with as much finesses, refinement, and ball skills as any great Ohio State receiver to be drafted in the first round, but because he also willingly looks to block like a madman. The Packers, more than most teams, ask a lot out of their receivers as run blockers, and rarely is there a first-round talent who brings the effort like Egbuka in that regard to complement an otherwise elite skillset and size (6'1, 200) to be as effective an outside receiver as a slot weapon. There isn't a more pure route runner in the 2025 class, and from a sure-handedness perspective, it's almost unrealistic to ask for much more. In fact, comparisons to Amon Ra St. Brown are (rightfully) common for Egbuka. For the Packers facing some long-term uncertainty around their receiver room after 2025, it wouldn't be a bad idea to bring in what would be one of the most polished receivers in any draft class with Egbuka.
Mykel Williams checks as many boxes for the Packers as anyone in this class will be able to. Albeit he draws mixed opinions on how "raw" he still is, his pop, athleticism, versatility, and build (6'5, 260) are scary to think about as he continues to develop his game after spending 2024 overcoming an ankle injury that he admitted held him back from ever playing at 100%. The Packers are prone to drafting players with a less productive final season compared to the season before (i.e., Jordan Love), and Williams may very well land in their lap due to his ankle injury that diminished what was very evidently becoming a top-10 pick lock after 2023. Even so, he still notched absolutely dominant outings, including notching four sacks in two games vs. a top-ranked Texas last season. His slippery speed rush would add a refreshing compliment to the power-focused group the Packers have otherwise built up at edge, and the speed at which Williams plays will pair with the type of player Green Bay builds their defense with (see: Edgerrin Cooper). It doesn't hurt that he's also remained effective and reliable against the run, with over an 80 PFF run defense grade each of the last two seasons.
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Comments (57)
Coldworld
April 16, 2025 at 10:33 am
Hairston at 23 does not do it for me. A small corner that, for all his agility, can be overpowered by receivers and has had some durability issues even against college players. His tackling suffers as a result.
Athletically he looks like he could play slot, but durability and size suggest otherwise. So he’s an outside or 4th corner. Outside he’s going to get pushed around and, despite a very good vertical, is going to have reach issues.
If he can add functional mass and strength he could be more in a year or two. As a later pick, I’d actually be pretty pleased, but not at 23.
AustinKrueger
April 16, 2025 at 12:30 pm
It's not about liking the pick; it's about the fact that the momentum for Hairston to Green Bay is very real. The last time a player's ties to the Packers spiked like this in the week leading up to the draft, it was Quay Walker.
Also, Hairston has added the fundamental mass you're looking for. Per the point on how he's up over 190 pounds into very normal cornerback weight. And he's 6'1 so he's not undersized, and in fact, one of his best traits has been how he plays bigger than his size.
LLCHESTY
April 16, 2025 at 12:52 pm
Has the sexual assault allegation been totally resolved? Packers usually stay away from any character questions.
Coldworld
April 16, 2025 at 01:06 pm
There is no public record of any such allegation that anyone has claimed to have found that I could unearth (let alone the records themselves. There is a Reddit posting that purports to evidence documents reflecting one, but that no one seems to have been able to otherwise validate (not just me) and could easily be faked. At this point it’s not certain that it ever existed, let alone whether it is ongoing.
LLCHESTY
April 16, 2025 at 01:22 pm
Somebody tweeted snapshots of the women's Instagram post and according to Justis yesterday she sent it out twice-in 2021 and this year. I have no idea of it's true or not but I guarantee if they draft him Gutey will be asked about it.
Coldworld
April 16, 2025 at 04:19 pm
That is what I was referring to as the Reddit post, which contains a picture of a supposed related document. Teams do due diligence. That would presumably involve a request for permission to speak with the supposed issuer to determine if the document was genuine and, if so, if the case was dismissed or otherwise resolved out of court.
Based on the date of the post, I’d assume it was one of the following: false/fake , found not to have merit or privately settled and accepted as such but with some form of sealing to take the record from the public domain.
Coldworld
April 16, 2025 at 01:02 pm
He measured 5’11 at the combine (NFL data), not 6’1. It’s good practice to never trust college listed height.
He’s not played at over 190 yet. He tested at 183 (still in the bottom 15% for corners), so he came down from the claimed 190 at the Senior Bowl, which is something that should urge caution.
It’s not easy to add useful weight to that extent quickly (legally) and doing so likely affects testing even if it is both sustainable and of the proper type. As I said, with time he may be able to add functional mass given time, but what I see currently is at least questionable and, as such, he’s not for me as a physically developmental corner in round one.
Alberta_Packer
April 16, 2025 at 02:49 pm
What or where is this momentum for Hairston that you speak of?
Cheezehead72
April 16, 2025 at 10:46 am
As much as I believe we need to draft a CB in the first round as I have said DT is more important. I like Harmon a lot but I believe he will go before 23. That is why I am on the Grant bandwagon. If both are there at 23 Gute has a tough decision. With mobile QBs it is important to get pressure up the middle and remember the shortest distance between two points is a straight line.
stockholder
April 16, 2025 at 10:54 am
Grant over Harmon
jannesbjornson
April 16, 2025 at 07:17 pm
Neither
dobber
April 17, 2025 at 08:53 am
I'm starting to really like Nolen
LambeauPlain
April 17, 2025 at 12:19 pm
Nolen is my favorite too. He anchored an Ol Miss D line that broke records for sacks. He led the way...and can play 0-5 tech. Hafley would love his versatility. Quick twitch first step, mean and nasty, motor never stops.
But if they go Grant or Harmon, I'm good. They too are quick twitch and also very good at both run and pass.
Definitely DL over CB for me at 23, now that it appears Alexander will be given every opportunity to show he can play in over half the games. And if Alexander is available, how many snaps would a rookie CB get ahead of him, Hobbs, Nixon, Valentine? Given the heavy rotation Hafley uses at DL, a rookie would get plenty of snaps and provide a greater ROI this season.
PackyCheese500
April 16, 2025 at 10:28 pm
What's interesting is that it seemed like a lot of the time at Michigan it was Grant commanding the double teams, not Mason Graham
T7Steve
April 16, 2025 at 10:59 am
I wonder if they'll show that Grant clip when/if the Penn State RB gets picked up? Looked like he was running backwards.
stockholder
April 16, 2025 at 11:13 am
Very few DTs can handle weight gain.
He Did.
ricky
April 16, 2025 at 11:24 am
I'd prefer drafting a top notch football player, and not a freak athlete.
LLCHESTY
April 16, 2025 at 01:24 pm
I'd prefer to draft a freak athlete that's a top notch football player.
PatrickGB
April 16, 2025 at 05:05 pm
I want both! 😉
TKWorldWide
April 17, 2025 at 07:00 am
How about one of each? 😉
WD
April 16, 2025 at 11:45 am
One thing appears certain and that is the influence and success of the Eagles. Their front four literally taking KC'S great QB out of the game to win the Superbowl. The first round will take all the top edge rushers, There will still be some really good DL and CBs on day two. That said, if Harmon is there I wouldn't complain too much.
So it all depends on the best available at EDGE. I did not hear Edge's Shemar Stuart or James Pearce mentioned in the conversation. They both could likely be there at 23. I would be happy with either one although I think Pearce has the greater upside. Moreover QB's are becoming more mobile and it takes fast men to catch them.
While we are at it let's sign that speedy hybrid LB/ edge /safety/spec teams et al featured earlier who visited Green Bay. I think they could try him as a roaming LB on passing downs. I mean 4.39 speed? Sign him today!
Isaiah Simmons!
WestCoastPackerBacker
April 16, 2025 at 01:44 pm
I read somewhere that there are concerns about Pearce Having consistent motivation. At least that’s not a question with the guys we have currently.
WD
April 19, 2025 at 10:43 am
The main knock on Pearce is he is not big enough around 247. He has the height but could add size with more protein and time in the weight room. Another 10 lbs easily ..His film looks great and he has the 4.4 speed. physically he can be compared to the Cowboys best pass rusher. Motivation is a psychological thing. Good coaching and the Packer locker room will give him plenty of motivation. I would be happy if they drafted him. But it all depends how it unfolds. I suspect there will be a run on Edge early in the first round.
TKWorldWide
April 17, 2025 at 07:03 am
Do you find it as amusing as I do that “the trenches” are suddenly the trendy thing? Since the time the amoeba crawled out of the primordial ooze, the trenches have reigned supreme. It’s just that mankind needed to be reminded. 😀🏈
LeotisHarris
April 17, 2025 at 08:38 am
That really was our first mistake. We should never have left the oceans.
Bitternotsour
April 17, 2025 at 09:32 am
the true original sin
dobber
April 16, 2025 at 12:17 pm
I personally like Harmon at 23, but if he's there, I think the Packers take Mykel Williams
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My wild-ass guess first two:
1st--Mykel Williams, Edge, UGA
2nd--Jalen Royals, WR, Utah St.
splitpea1
April 16, 2025 at 12:39 pm
If we take Williams, how does following the "Green Bay Bulldogs" sound? Given we've invested so much high draft capital here recently and have had only mediocre results, maybe trying our luck with another program would be a good idea.
LLCHESTY
April 16, 2025 at 01:26 pm
Well they did steal the G. Asked to borrow it and never gave it back anyway.
LLCHESTY
April 16, 2025 at 12:55 pm
I'm waiting to see if he runs the agilities tomorrow before I'm on board with him. If he runs an elite time there I'll like his prospects, otherwise he's another Gary and LVN and I'd like to see them go after something different at the position.
I'm the conductor on the Royals hype train. Have been since I watched right after the combine. Now I'm afraid he won't be there at 54.
dobber
April 16, 2025 at 01:31 pm
I see a lot of Brandon Aiyuk in him.
LambeauPlain
April 17, 2025 at 01:35 pm
Who is this prospect?
"This prospect presents one of the more fascinating evaluations in this class - a prospect whose film shows flashes of dominance but also stretches where he leaves you wanting more. His combination of power, length, and natural athleticism screams first-round talent, but the inconsistent production and technical rawness makes us think he has a hint of boom-or-bust about him."
His name is Van Ness. Just kidding. It describes Mykel Williams per Draft Buzz. Williams may take over a DE spot, but I agree with LL and doubt another development rookie would supplant Gary, Enagbare, Cox, Jr, Van Ness. I see one of the top DT rookies making the most impact to field a dominating front 4 group.
CJBauckham
April 16, 2025 at 04:06 pm
I also think Royals is in our sights.
Though, TJ Sanders peaks my interest in that second slot as well...
LLCHESTY
April 16, 2025 at 05:38 pm
That's one of the reasons I like the idea of trading down a few spots in the 1st, to pick up a 4th and then use one of the 4ths to move up into the top 10 in the 3rd. I think there's going to be a lot of talent in that area that won't be there at 87. If they can add another late round pick in the deal that would be great too, leaving them with 9.
CJBauckham
April 17, 2025 at 08:36 am
Yeah if I could trade wizard my way into getting Sanders, Royals, and say, Amos (cb)... I'd be a happy camper
splitpea1
April 16, 2025 at 12:27 pm
Either Grant or Harmon would be fine choices. But what to do if neither are available?
First, what not to do: Selecting Shemar Stewart would be borderline malfeasance as far as I'm concerned. He probably has the highest bust potential of any edge. If Gute were to take a chance on this kind of prospect and see him flop, it could cost him, given his first round history...Not really interested in Hairston, either, unless we get some kind of news or transaction concerning Alexander...Offensive line? Probably not. Right now they just signed Banks and are getting excellent value out of R. Walker, so I think a first round choice gets postponed.
Egbuka would probably be a good choice. I would favor McMillan because of his size (helpful in the red zone where we need help), but getting him is probably a fantasy. In the second round, Higgins also has good size. Walter Football on Egbuka: "Team sources (I guess that's Ohio State) have said they think Egbuka will be a Hines Ward-type receiver as a pro." That would be interesting to watch, wouldn't it!
Really the second round will be just as interesting, if not more, fun to watch. There's a load of good prospects available in most position groups. If the Packers can't find their man in the first and they can find a way to deal to obtain three in the second, it's not a bad idea at all.
Cheezehead72
April 16, 2025 at 12:34 pm
If Harmon and Grant aren't available at 23 I would hope Gute can trade up to get one of them. If he cannot or took a chance that they would be available then there is Nolan and Williams. One of the four should be there at 23. The key is to shore up the DL by getting big guys that can push the pocket.
LLCHESTY
April 16, 2025 at 12:59 pm
Williams is a run stuffer only, 3rd round pick at the earliest IMO. TJ Slaton had more pass rush production than Williams and we see how that turned out. There's too many big men in this draft to take him early.
GregC
April 16, 2025 at 12:41 pm
Agreed that round 2 could be more fun to watch than round 1. It's kind of like last year, when the players didn't really line up for the Packers in round 1, but they did in rounds 2 and 3.
Shemar Stewart scares me. There was an article in packersnews.com the other day in which a scout was quoted as saying, "He plays as if he doesn't know how to play football, just doesn't have the instincts to play. "
LLCHESTY
April 16, 2025 at 01:00 pm
If Gutey drafts Stewart he's putting himself on the hot seat.
gsd3
April 17, 2025 at 04:04 am
I like Williams at 23. He played last season on a high ankle sprain. Still produced.
Turophile
April 16, 2025 at 04:55 pm
Round 2 is generally my favourite round. Every year I find multiple guys I want in this round, whether it is a WR, CB, DT. The crazy strength of Alfred Collins, the polish of CB Azareye'h Thomas or the measurables (with 4.30 40 speed) of Darien Porter. The ever popular WR Jayden Higgins, Tre Harris or Jalen Royals.
Then there is the guy that surprisingly drops like Edge Landon Jackson or DT Kenneth Grant or Tyleik Williams, or Edge Donovan Ezeiruaku. Probably they are all gone by pick 54, but maybe, just maybe......
I almost always want to trade down in round one for that extra pick you can get in round 2.
Turophile
April 16, 2025 at 02:07 pm
I've warmed to Edge Donovan Ezeiruaku over Mykel recently. He (Donovan) doesn't have the size of Williams but he is probably the most skilled rusher out there with a huge array of moves and always rushes with a plan, keeping the tackles he goes against guessing often - and often wrong. He had a monster 2024.
I've disregarded him until recently due to him being only about 250lbs which is not the normal Packer 'type' (which is more like 265lbs), but sometimes production is so good it trumps measurables. If you want pass rush, he has it in spades. 16 1/2 sacks in 2024, that is just ridiculous. Just for once, production over measurables, please
Plenty of sites have him going mid 2nd round. I don't think he gets out of rd 1. If the Packers took him at 23, I certainly wouldn't complain.
dobber
April 17, 2025 at 07:41 am
Ezeiraku and Mike Green are similar in measurables except for arm length. I've warmed up to Green, but suspect that if his background doesn't scare teams off, he's going to be off the board ahead of 23. I think Williams goes ahead of 23, too, but he's so much a Gute pick that I don't think he could pass on him if he were still on the board at 23. Williams doesn't give me pause like Stewart does.
splitpea1
April 17, 2025 at 11:41 am
If Williams gets taken earlier, the Falcons might be the one to do it, as they're looking for help at edge and DT. Williams was born in Georgia, attended UGA, and has been in for a visit, so Atlanta could be a natural landing spot for him.
One more thing about Williams: I've read multiple times that he lacks explosion getting off the line. And since this is a trait Gute seems to favor (at least when you listen to him in post-draft discussions), a lack thereof could give him some pause in selecting him.
Oxymoron 3339
April 17, 2025 at 11:09 am
If we draft Donovan I will be excited because that tells me Hafley thinks he can play. Who would know better than his ex coach.
Alberta_Packer
April 16, 2025 at 04:00 pm
Top 3 @ 23 - for me:
D-line:
1. Mykel Williams
2. Kenneth Grant
3. Derrick Harmon
4. Shemar Stewart (because Gutekunst is attracted to this type - more than me).
WR:
1. Tetairoa McMillan
All other WRs are Round 2+
CB:
1. Will Johnson
2. Jahdae Barron
All other CBs are Round 2+
LLCHESTY
April 16, 2025 at 06:40 pm
I heard yesterday that Barrons arm length is in the 4th percentile for outside CBs and those types haven't fared well outside. I think the slot position is crowded already.
Alberta_Packer
April 16, 2025 at 07:15 pm
That is a concern - which might move him out of the 1st round. At least for me. Furthermore - another Packers "favorite" - Trey Amos - was reported to have had poor agility drills - which is probably worse than having short arms. Unless Will Johnson falls to the Packers - now thinking not until Day 3 when the Packers draft a CB.
dobber
April 17, 2025 at 07:36 am
It's almost like a virus: over the last few years the "not gonna agility test" movement has become pretty rampant. We as observers tend to tear the numerical stuff apart--short arms, small hands, lousy 3-cone--but the bottom line is: what have they put on film? There are plenty of awfully good players out there who didn't test well in some facet, and plenty of GMs (and armchair GMs) who let them go by because of it. That said, I personally put a lot of stock in agility numbers but that's a benchmark I use since I don't broadly watch a lot of college film.
Alberta_Packer
April 17, 2025 at 11:18 am
The million(s) dollar question for me is how does a player's College film translate to the NFL - all things considered? This is well beyond my expertise - so like in horse racing - I rely on past performance and physical conformation. Also - as in horse racing - my win rate for correct predictions is well below 50%.
PackyCheese500
April 16, 2025 at 10:31 pm
Harmon, Grant, and Egbuka are my 3 favorite players for the Packers to take at 23. If they ended up with one of them after day 1 of the draft, I'd be thrilled!
Hairston would be fine if we traded back before picking him (like with the Bills to pick 30). Have heard his name more as an early 2nd round guy. Of the CBs, though, he'd be the preference IMO
BRinMilwaukee
April 17, 2025 at 08:42 am
What a great recap. I would be thrilled with any of these picks.
dobber
April 17, 2025 at 08:47 am
An interesting post on JSOnline this morning from Jason Radcliffe on the 10 things the Packers need to do to have a good draft (add your own www.)
jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2025/04/17/10-keys-to-green-bay-packers-successful-2025-nfl-draft/83096367007/
Might be behind a paywall, so here are the 10 things (cue the Letterman top 10 montage):
10. Throw a great draft party
9. Recognize Mark Murphy
--now it gets to be about football--
8. Draft Logan Brown (presumably later)
7. Don't draft a TE
6. Bolster CB depth
5. Don't draft a QB
4. Add to the OL
3. Add size to the DL
2. Add a WR who can regularly beat man coverage (even if it means trading up)
1. Get an edge in round 1
HarryHodag
April 17, 2025 at 10:39 am
I have probably run 50 draft simulations and I keep rounding back to Kenneth Grant. He would likely solve a problem for the defense against the run and the pass. Harmon is a close second for the same reasons.
psu8284
April 17, 2025 at 11:53 am
Nice read. I also like the Egbuka choice. Comes from the most NFL ready WR factory of Ohio State. Glad not to see Shemar Stewart who is the freak of nature that the Packers like, but generates no stats. IMO, you either make football plays or you don't. 11 TFLs and 3.5 sacks over 3 years in college....hard pass on him.
nagawicka
April 21, 2025 at 05:39 pm
Boy if they draft Hairston over Harmon or Grant it really WILL be time to fire Gute.
Terrell Buckley over Gilbert Brown, be my guest. There are other lightning quick *prototypical* ace cover guys available. You have to hold the line, and you can't win in the trenches without a league-dominant defensive line, and Green Bay hasn't really had that since the jonesjurkobrownwhite foursome. It's malpractice to waste the careers of the Ryan Picketts and Kenny Clarks without installing running mates so good that our DL is so wide you can't get around it and so deep you can't get under it.
You only have to watch the clip of Kenneth Grant chasing that RB down from behind to understand what wins football games. Either you have THE league-dominant NTs & DTs--or you don't. It's NOT ENOUGH to roster 2nd-tier D-Linemen. IF more Lombardi Trophies are REALLY your goal, then doing what it takes to grab *THE* most dominant DTs in a 2025 draft said to offer *generational* strength at the position is really your only option.
Hey, if they wanna pick up Warren Brinson, Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins or Elijah Roberts on the backend, that's gravy. But what they really need to do is pick up BOTH Derrick Harmon and Walter Nolen, or Kenneth Grant and Tyleik Williams. Even any one of those four + TJ Sanders would come close. Not every Donald Driver-like late-rounder beats out the Derrick Mayes-like 2nd-rounder. You cannot select the second-best options consistently and expect to consistently win. Green Bay's pattern is to consistently come close, and consistently exit the playoffs early. Early-early. The other pattern? By-passing the best DTs available in the draft, consistently, year after year. Key fact: the defensive line didn't underperform last year, they were out-performed by bigger, better, deeper DLines that were fortified with higher draft picks. (DLs & OLs). The canard that Kenny Clark 'didn't produce' has walk the plank. DL impact isn't all stats. Thinking One Great DT can or should singlehandedly make a DLine league-dominant--somehow, magically--without high-round picks at all 3 other slots-- is . .. asinine and moronic, if not naked malpractice.
Same thing on the OL, they came apart at the end and without beef the same thing will go down next fall.