Maggie’s Pre-Game Six Pack - 2024 Week 4
By MaggieLoney
The 3-0 Vikings travel to Lambeau Field to take on the 2-1 Packers in Green Bay’s first divisional matchup of the season. Per the dope sheet, this is the first time the Packers don’t play an NFC North opponent until Week 4 or later since 2017. Here are six things to keep in mind going into the divisional clash.
1. Jonesing to Return
This one is going to hurt. Aaron Jones will make his return to Lambeau Field on Sunday wearing purple and running out of the visitor’s tunnel. He’s had a strong start to his 2024 season, rushing for 228 yards and one touchdown, averaging 5.4 yards per carry, and adding another 97 yards with one score through the air. On the ground, the Vikings rank 14th in attempts and 13th in yards. They’re 10th in yards per attempt, averaging 4.8 yards per carry. Green Bay’s defense ranks 24th in the league and allows 4.7 yards per attempt.
While Jones has been impressive, I’m not sure anyone could have predicted the success of Green Bay’s run game through three weeks. The Packers rank first in both attempts (111) and yards (612), and are second in yards per attempt, averaging 5.5 yards per carry. The run game has certainly been the focal point for the offense under Malik Willis. It’ll be interesting to see how the run game trends when Jordan Love is back under center, which could be as early as Sunday.
The Vikings defense is also pretty stout against the run, ranking 2nd in the league in attempts and yards. Minnesota is only giving up 3.6 yards on the ground per attempt. Josh Jacobs (4.5ypa) and Emanuel Wilson (5.0ypa) will have their work cut out for them in the run game on Sunday.
2. Being Explosive
The Packers currently lead the NFL in explosive play rates with 14.1%. An explosive play is a run of 10-plus yards or a passing play of 20-plus yards. The Vikings are in the top ten with 10.2%.
These are two high-powered offenses that have the ability to change the trajectory of the game in one play. The Vikings rank third in the NFL in points for and are averaging 28.3 points per game. Green Bay isn’t terribly far behind, ranking seventh in points for. More on that in a bit.
The Packers have put up over 375 yards of offense in each of their first three games, while the Vikings are averaging 329 yards per contest and have scored 23 or more points each week. Minnesota leads the league with eight passing touchdowns through three games. Justin Jefferson and Jalen Nailor both have three touchdowns each. No Packers player has more than one receiving touchdown. Both teams will be able to score points on Sunday. This likely comes down to who makes fewer mistakes and capitalizes on big play opportunities. (For what it’s worth, Green Bay leads the league in turnover differential and is plus-seven, while the Vikings are plus-two).
3. What a Rush
After a slow start to the season, the Packers teed off against the Titans, tallying eight sacks in Nashville. Devonte Wyatt currently leads the team with three sacks, but eight other players have gotten involved for at least a half sack or more.
Historically, Green Bay’s pass rush has done well against the Vikings. Preston Smith (who has two sacks this season) has six sacks in his last six games against Minnesota, and his career 8.5 sacks against the Vikings are his most against a single opponent. Kenny Clark hasn’t registered a sack or quarterback hit yet this year, but like Smith, he plays well against Minnesota. Clark has eight career sacks against the Vikings, the most against a single opponent for him, too.
Sam Darnold has taken eight sacks in three games, so opportunities to generate pressure will be there. But Darnold is also playing incredibly well through three weeks. He’s averaging a 67.9% completion percentage and has thrown eight touchdowns with only two interceptions for a passer rating of 117.3. Both the passer rating and completion percentage are career highs.
Like Will Levis, Darnold doesn’t pose the same kind of rushing threat that Jalen Hurts and Anthony Richardson did early in the year. If the Packers can bring pressure, they can increase their chances of leaving Lambeau Field with a victory.
4. LaFleur vs Flores
It doesn’t get much better than the chess match between Matt LaFleur and Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores. Flores enters his second year with Minnesota after his unit finished 13th in points against in 2023, allowing an average of 21.3 points per game. So far this year, the Vikings rank second in points against, allowing only 10 points per game. They’re a top 10 defense in third and fourth down conversions, and the seventh ranked defense in red zone stops, allowing touchdowns on just three of nine trips this season.
LaFleur’s offense has struggled in the red zone and ranks 29th in the league, scoring touchdowns on only three out of 11 trips. But, thanks to those explosive plays we talked about earlier, the Packers are still putting up an average of 25 points per game.
It’s possible that no weapon on offense makes LaFleur’s unit go quite like Jayden Reed. He’s the only player with multiple touchdowns this season and has 286 scrimmage yards in three games. Per the dope sheet, Reed “posted 10 catches for 172 yards (17.2 avg.) and two TDs last season in two games versus Minnesota, becoming the first NFL player to record 10-plus catches, 150-plus receiving yards and multiple TD catches against the Vikings as a rookie.”
Reed has five rushing attempts this season. He’s scored one touchdown and picked up four first downs in those attempts, giving him a 100% success rate rushing the football. He’s averaging 17.8 yards per attempt on rushing plays. When the ball is in Reed’s hands, good things happen, and he’ll be the player Flores’ defense most needs to account for on Sunday.
5. Edging In Front
Rookie inside linebacker Edgerrin Cooper has only played 34 defensive snaps so far this season, but what he’s put on tape already is certainly deserving of more playing time. Cooper has one pass defensed and a half sack through three weeks plus nine total tackles. While he hasn’t played enough to earn a position rank from Pro Football Focus, he posts an elite pass rush grade of 90.8 in his limited snaps, with an overall grade of 74.1. For reference, the “average” grade from PFF is a 60, so that means Cooper is grading out really well in his early looks.
Erlc Wilson has only played in 31 defensive snaps, so he’s also excluded from an inside linebacker position rank, but in his limited sample size, he’d be Green Bay’s highest graded defender with an elite score of 92.1.
For context, Isaiah McDuffie ranks 64th out of 77 eligible linebackers with a grade of 49.0 in 166 defensive snaps, and Quay Walker sits at 75th out of 77 with a grade of 40.7 on 186 defensive snaps. Both McDuffie’s and Walker’s strongest grades come in pass rush, earning a 58.5 and 62.2, respectively.
Of course, more snaps equals more opportunities to make mistakes, so these grades aren’t meant as an indictment on Green Bay’s starting linebackers, but they do help to illustrate Cooper’s and Wilson’s effectiveness in their limited looks. Expect Cooper especially to start earning more opportunities as a starter as the season progresses.
6. Another Chapter in the Rivalry
When the Packers and Vikings have faced off recently, it’s been a lopsided contest. In each of the last five contests between the NFC North rivals, the winning team has won by at least 14 points. Green Bay holds a slight edge winning three of the last five. The foes have split the regular-season series for the last four seasons, which is the longest stretch in the rivalry’s history.
Per the dope sheet, since the NFC North realignment in 2002, the Packers (12) and Vikings (5) have accounted for 17 of the 22 NFC North titles. All-time, Green Bay leads the series 66-58-3 over Minnesota.
This year’s Packers team excels at taking the ball away and running the football. The Vikings excel in both scoring points, limiting opposing teams from scoring points, and defending against the run. LaFleur is 6-4 against the Vikings while Minnesota Head Coach Kevin O’Connell is 2-2 against Green Bay. It’s sure to be a close one on Sunday, and it’ll help settle the debate as to who’s the current frontrunner in the NFC North (sorry, Lions).
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Maggie Loney is a writer for Cheesehead TV and podcaster for Pack's What She Said. Find her on Bluesky at @MaggieJLoney.
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Comments (21)
Cheezehead72
September 27, 2024 at 07:15 am
On defense I believe the Packers can get pressure with just four which means seven in coverage and to defend running lanes. That needs to happen for the Packers to win. Part of me is thinking we should not have Alexander cover JJ. Put Alexander alone on the WR2 and have safety help with JJ. But I go back to Alexander shutting down JJ so I would start out with that strategy and allow X to roam and get interceptions. The first LB to Jones needs to bring him down. And they need to swarm to the ball.
On offense one of the best offenses against a blitzing defense is a good run game. We need to get the ball out on the perimeter either with sweeps, screens, or just runs to the outside. That does not mean that they should not run up the middle. You must keep them honest and run up the middle. The TEs will be very important. They need to find the hole vacated by the blitzer. Whether it is Love or Willis at QB they need to be moving. Do not let the defense know where the launch point will be. Also that allows for the QB to run. The RPO will be needed.
Coldworld
September 27, 2024 at 07:40 am
The Vikings haven’t really played from behind or against teams playing well. The 49ers appear a good team but they weren’t on the night with missing key pieces or the following week. Stroud and co aren’t firing either and missing Mixon.
Green Bay played a balanced, if not really conventional, O in week one on a poor surface in a game mostly defined by slipping and self inflicted harm on both sides. The Vikings haven’t faced concerted rushing but have still given up 8 sacks, not too far off the league lead. The Packers have only really focused on the rush in one half of one game, but that was against a pretty poor OL.
Jones seems tailor made to stress Nixon and the LB corps on the ground and through the air, but Reed is an equal challenge through the air for their secondary I think and the Jacobs/Wilson is another level of challenge than they’ve faced due to injury absences.
We’ve all heard how Flores is bamboozling opponents and blitzing 60 plus percent of the time. Then again he’s always been well ahead thanks in part to opponent gifts. LaFleur did overwhelm him in December, so maybe not as much of a surprise.
Their corners aren’t great, if we can find enough time to stress them, that could be a challenge that Flores has thus far managed to avoid. The Vikings have never faced a Hafley D. That D seems to change by game and during one. Since we don’t know how he will approach the Vikings O as it’s a different proposition to those seen, they don’t either.
This game should be a very interesting reality test for both teams on both sides of the ball. A lot of certainties bandied about but little in the games to date to justify them. I’m really looking forward to seeing how the coaching as well as the players match up. Hopefully entertaining football ensues.
Love or Willis, I don’t think this game outcome is obvious, though the challenges will be different. Willis presents a differing set of opportunities the Vikings have yet to face as well as challenges.
pantz_bURp
September 27, 2024 at 09:03 am
Per usual, nicely stated Cold. You got a knack or a gift...
Or stealing my notes from me. 😄
Hoof hearted,
Pantz
jannesbjornson
September 27, 2024 at 11:07 am
Yes, attack their corners and Smith doesn't have the range any longer. The key will be Wallace holding position against their Edge guys and Rhyan being stunted inside. If the Pack can steam roll their front seven with a sustained running game, Flores blitz schemes will be neutralized. Vegas predicts a low-scoring affair. Bullard and Williams may make plays.
dblbogey
September 27, 2024 at 03:55 pm
And on defense, give Cooper much more playing time. The Packers always seem to stick with "experience" and wait way too long to use young, but superior talent. Royce Newman for example with Zach Tom on the bench. Cooper looks to be what they had hoped Quay Walker would be, so play him. Walker and McDuffie aren't cutting it.
jannesbjornson
September 27, 2024 at 07:41 pm
Yes, he should be the starter. I concur.
T7Steve
September 27, 2024 at 07:50 am
"it’ll help settle the debate as to who’s the current frontrunner in the NFC North (sorry, Lions). "
Not just the NFC North, but the entire NFC. I know it will become more important later, but I'm already wanting back the Eagles game. Only a couple penalties in that one from a victory. Can't give these games away to good teams.
Coldworld
September 27, 2024 at 09:58 am
The Seahawks versus the Lions on Monday will be a key one. Generally though, it’s November before the lead pack really starts to emerge, but early on, these two games look significant. If the Seahawks go 4 & 0 then the lions will be 2 & 2 and maybe some cracks emerge. They won’t have Ragnow, which could hurt and he may not be himself when he does return from a torn pec.
Bitternotsour
September 27, 2024 at 10:43 am
Week 4. Nothing will be revealed. Hold your powder.
I will agree though, if the Lions lose their fanbase will be shitting themselves.
stockholder
September 27, 2024 at 10:50 am
Wrong-
pantz_bURp
September 27, 2024 at 12:13 pm
Then, like Coach Campbell said last year to his fans:
Better wear your diapers 😁
*I like Coach Campbell, he is just the right amount of nutz, in my nutz world
Coach Pantz (poor man's Lombardi)
pantz_bURp
September 27, 2024 at 09:00 am
Okay, okay...this matchup is starting to get me pumped up. I am trying to stay away from anything caffeinated or any item with prune juice.
I have been trying to get into the heads of our upcoming opponent's fans: watching Hershall Walker bobsledding in the Olympics, watching Jim Marshall's scoop and score, trying to buy the original Whizzenator online and basically trying to will myself to feel hopeless, letdown and like a loser 24/7/365.25 by association. In essense, questioning my existence on this earth.
Anddd, if I get enough of a backing financially, I will run onto the hallowed ground of Lambeau Field and hock that PURPLE SOMBRERO and heave it into the stands in section 120 similar to those glow in the dark Wham-O frisbees.
I know, I know...it is just a game.
Pantz in a Game Day tranze
CheeseEdWest2
September 27, 2024 at 10:11 am
Ha ha ha ha ha, hoo hoo hoo hoo. Thanks.
stockholder
September 27, 2024 at 10:40 am
1.Jone's Revenge vs. the popularity of Gute
2. Why change the explosiveness for Love.?
3. Karl Brooks belongs outside.( Right next to Gary.)
4. MLf is a much better coach than Flores.
And he doesn’t need a big horn to toot it.
5. Cooper can sit, Until this front 4 plays
Up to its capabilities. Switching LBs won’t help.
6. The Home advantage. Don’t give it away.
jannesbjornson
September 27, 2024 at 11:21 am
I would start Cooper. Why sit on talent and speed? A veteran may be able to diagnose, but if he can't get to the mark, the play is past him. Wilson is their best cover LB. Yes, Karl is a DE and should be next to Clark, or Wyatt on the rush scheme. Maybe A.jones revenge will result in a couple of fumbles/stripped balls. See if Q. Walker can show up? Darnold seems like he finally got his body in better shape and will toss on the roll-outs. He has not seen a pass rush like the Pack's this season. Gary has to hold contain and not fall for the sucker plays. If Love can pivot, he plays. The downfield passing threat and his fast release will make the difference. If Willis plays, Flores will zone him and stunt Walker backside. I was impressed with his passes to Watson who should be the featured receiver this game. Reed, who can the queens match up on him? You liked Rice, but he doesn't have the open-field running ability and character of Jayden Reed. I wish I was going to this match. Now I'm trending against Vegas and see a lot of scoring....
pantz_bURp
September 27, 2024 at 12:15 pm
Stock, look down your shirt and spell the word ATTIC for me please. 😄
Thank you in advance,
Pantz
Leatherhead
September 27, 2024 at 11:21 am
A home game against a division opponent is about as big of a game as you have during the regular season. A win puts us in first place after 4 games.
GregC
September 27, 2024 at 01:44 pm
For so early in the season, there is a lot riding on this game, especially if Jordan Love starts. If he starts and the Packers lose, they would be 0-2 with him and 2-0 with Malik Willis. That would be kind of weird. Plus they would be two games behind the Vikings, with the remaining head-to-head matchup in Minnesota.
Oppy
September 27, 2024 at 08:36 pm
It is an important game, but then again, the Vikings are perennial bed shitters and they can't hold velcro together down the stretch.
GregC
September 27, 2024 at 09:31 pm
They've won the division three times in the last nine years, so there's that. The Packers have won it four times during that time span.
Oppy
September 28, 2024 at 06:21 am
Perennial. Bed. Shitters.
Wait and see, it's what they do.