Let's Talk Football: Weaponizing 4th Down
In a heavyweight Thanksgiving showdown, Matt LaFleur and Jordan Love out-Campbelled Dan Campbell, delivering a 31–24 statement victory built on fearless decision-making and perfectly timed execution.
By PackerAaron
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Nobuttkiss
November 28, 2025 at 11:11 am
Packers receivers stepped up big time in this game.
Very fortunate to get out of there with a win after not scoring at all in the fourth quarter. We caught Detroit just the right time.
Better not lose defensive intensity against the Bears, they are dangerous right now.
Leatherhead
November 28, 2025 at 01:02 pm
Converting 4th downs is great. Better than settling for short punts and FG attempts.
But....eventually, you'll fail on 4th down and it'll blow up in your face and then circle around and bite you in the ass.
Packerpasty
November 28, 2025 at 02:54 pm
Went over to a Lions podcast on you tube….interesting insights from that side…seems the fan base is getting a bit tired of Campbell and his fourth down gambles….”take the damn point coach” “ fourth and three at midfield is not a smart idea”. ….and they weren’t happy with the pass rush and D backs….dumbest comment was that the lions made Love look great when he is not a very good QB….haha..they angry over there in Motown…
Leatherhead
November 28, 2025 at 03:08 pm
I've been listening to their pain, too.
The career arc of Dan Campbell is descending. Once Upon A Time, he had a halftime lead in the Championship game. They coughed up a Lion-sized furball. They rolled through the next season, lost their first playoff game, and now they're in 3rd place.
Campbell will probably be coaching for his job next year. Maybe KOC , too, if he can't get the Vikings into the playoffs. He hasn't ever won a playoff game and won't make the playoffs this year. I mean, yeah, it's not his fault that they traded away his QB, but that's how they play the fiddle in Minneapolis.
Packerpasty
November 28, 2025 at 03:20 pm
Unless a big turn around I would think they’re Super Bowl window is getting smaller…they have a lot of holes to fill..my son in law and grown grandsons live near Detroit and are thinking it’s time to think about a QB in the draft…” he’s good but a freakin’ statue” …and “where the hell was Hutch?”
Since'75
November 28, 2025 at 04:37 pm
November 27, 2025 at 02:13 pm
The Lions are in no danger of winning their first SB anytime soon.
It's amazing how Dan Campbell has seemingly no clue of situational football.
Since'75
November 28, 2025 at 04:42 pm
I used to love listening to 670 The Score, for about 10 minutes each Bear loss, and listen to bears fans lose their shit....lol
They had 2 host of the show who got so pissed off, they got fired over it....lol
Since'75
November 28, 2025 at 04:28 pm
"seems the fan base is getting a bit tired of Campbell"
Sometimes common sense and logical thinking take over, and 'some' fans put the kool aid away.
Since'75
November 28, 2025 at 04:26 pm
I don't say this kind of stuff often, but this guys intelligence and knowledge is off the charts.
Andy Herman is THE MAN.
Starrbrite
November 28, 2025 at 04:28 pm
Leatherhead and I have consistently noted that Cambell’s star-shine is rapidly diminishing. I have less respect for Campbell than many of you, but when questioned, he does give honest answers/ explanations.
However, his stupidity on 4th down has caught up with him.
The Lions opportunities are fading fast.
Go Packers!!!
Packerpasty
November 28, 2025 at 04:34 pm
How da hell did the Packers lose to this Eagles team??
Since'75
November 28, 2025 at 04:48 pm
The Eagles are becoming just a shell of themselves, they've only gained 12 first downs, and they have about a minus 18 minute TOP deficit.
They can't sustain drives.
The Packers have to wait for a week to gain control of the North.
Starrbrite
November 28, 2025 at 07:53 pm
Right—a good question.
WorseWisconsin
November 28, 2025 at 05:07 pm
Wait...didn't both Detroit AND GB lose to the Eagles? And the Bears beat them. Huh.
GB may still end up in first place in the NFC North.
But not this week :)
Since'75
November 28, 2025 at 05:32 pm
Well, Packer Nation can wait a week:)
The Packers being on top of the Division in week 14, being 4-0 in the division, controlling their own destiny.
Yea...we can wait a week 😁
GregC
November 28, 2025 at 05:50 pm
I would've preferred to see the Eagles beat the Bears, but the outcome was not a total shocker after the Eagles coughed up a 21-point lead to the Cowboys last week. Also, it was great to see them fumble on the tush push play, which I despise, and also great to see their sad-sack fans heading for the exits with 7 minutes left to play and their team only trailing by two scores.
Also, the Bears win sets up a great matchup in Green Bay next week. Both teams are coming in hot!
Starrbrite
November 28, 2025 at 07:55 pm
I feel the same way GregC; especially about the tush-push.
egbertsouse
November 29, 2025 at 09:36 am
I loved it when the camera caught Santa Claus leaving early.