How to Save the Packers’ Season

It's a long shot, but the defense and run game must steal a game or two.

Hey, how’s everyone doing? Yeah, me, too.

Honestly, I wonder if there’s a weird cosmic phenomenon at work here. Last year, Rodgers goes down in week 1, and this year Love? As Mr. Rodgers might say, you should look into that. And yes, I know, Love won’t miss the whole season, but it probably won’t matter. 

I mentioned this possibility in a recent column, so I’m feeling a little jinxy, too. It was soon after the Denver and Baltimore preseason games, in which it became painfully clear that neither Sean Clifford nor Michael Pratt were up to the task of being a pro backup in a worst case scenario, and suggested that Brian Gutekunst get on the phone with Ryan Tannehill’s agent instead of playing Russian Roulette with Love’s health. Perhaps Gutey misheard me, because he traded for Malik Willis instead and I thought, well, at least he got someone who has more upside than the other two guys. Or maybe Willis could become a Taysom Hill type of player. But is he ready enough now to keep the Packers from going 0-6? Color me dubious.

So here we are, using our mental GPS to try to figure out the best way forward and save the season. My basic take is that the interim QB matters little now (more on that in a minute), and the team should focus on getting a couple of other things on better footing:

First though, there’s been some chatter about how the Philadelphia game proves that the Packers should play their starters in pre-season. Seeing how shaky the Packers looked on both sides of the ball Friday night, I understand the impulse, but it’s a big ball of wrong. The vast majority of teams without rookie quarterbacks sit their ones for most or all of the pre-season for good reason. Why expose critical, highly paid players to injury before action that matters? If the answer is, well, it didn’t save Jordan Love from getting hurt, one thing has nothing to do with the other. 

Sure, when you are doing something new, pre-season reps help. But teams don’t want to give away their schemes ahead of meaningful games anyway, for obvious reasons. The primary function of plain-vanilla pre-season games is competition to finalize rosters. 

Speaking of new, the biggest disappointment Friday night — aside from  Love’s injury — was the performance of the highly touted, new-scheme defense. It looked a little different than Joe Barry’s product, but it didn’t produce different results. The simple fact is that if the Packers have even a remote chance of making the playoffs, the defense has to steal a couple of games until Love returns and is not impaired. Friday’s play provided little encouragement on this front, though we do need to acknowledge that it’s not simple to switch to a new system and expect everyone to execute it perfectly immediately. Unfortunately, we don’t have the luxury of time now.

The worry here is that it’s still unclear what this defense is supposed to be. It’s fine to throw around vague bromides like moving downhill instead of backing up, and pinning ears back to bring pressure, but those aren’t schemes. I struggled to figure out what Hafley was trying to do as first the Philadelphia run game, and then the pass game, frequently shredded his troops.

The reality is you can’t “pin your ears back” with running quarterbacks. You have to do the one thing the Packers did well, which is to keep that QB contained. What was odd, though, is that Hafley didn’t try to sometimes sell out on blitzing, which was what tripped up Jalen Hurts last year. Then, the D-line and especially the linebacking corps couldn’t stop Saquon. And then A.J. Brown and DeVonta Smith did their damage. 

The new safety crew was decent, and Philadelphia left Eric Stokes largely alone, instead picking on Jaire Alexander, who looks nothing like the player from two years ago. Meanwhile, Quay Walker was basically left on an island, getting little help from Isaiah McDuffie. Walker has taken a lot of heat, and I’ve not been a big fan of his from the beginning, but he actually had one of his better games. He just can’t do it alone. Edgerrin Cooper has to step up, pronto. This scheme needs strong linebacker play to work. The Colts are coming to town with another running quarterback.  

A second key: This offensive line is not built to run block. A few holes opened for Josh Jacobs late in the game, and Emanuel Wilson had a couple of nice bursts, but for the most part the line was ineffective. I’ve said many times that this is a roster construction problem, and the team needs a road grader. It’s unclear where that comes from, but the Packers cannot win — regardless of who plays quarterback — if they can’t run the ball. It was also interesting how much more effective Jacobs was running from a deep set. 

Which brings us to the QB issue. So far, it looks like the Packers are going to bank on Love coming back within a month. I’m not sure that is a safe bet. Regardless, the team seems disinclined to sign someone who would take a couple of weeks to learn the playbook. But did anyone see what Joe Flacco did last year?

So whether it’s Willis or Clifford, it comes down to who will make the fewest mistakes. Again, the goal needs to be to steal a game or two while Love is out. That’s the only hope of salvaging this season. GPG.

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Jonathan Krim grew up in New York but got hooked on the Packers — and on hating the Cowboys — watching the Ice Bowl as a young child.  He blames bouts of unhappiness in his late teens on Dan Devine. A journalist for several decades who now lives in California, he enjoys trafficking in obscure cultural references, lame dad jokes and occasionally preposterous takes. Jonathan is a Packers shareholder, and insists on kraut with his brats. You can follow Jonathan on twitter at @Jkrim.

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Coldworld's picture

September 09, 2024 at 07:37 am

Clearly the default remedy for any team when it’s starting QB is hurt is for the D and run game to step up.

Unfortunately, our D just changed coordinator and formation and is likely to be a work in progress, probably till November based on historical experience.

That leaves our run game. The issue there is that we have long not emphasized run blocking and Jones, when healthy, masked the downside of that. Something he demonstrated well yesterday. We don’t have Jones, so our run game likely goes as far as our OL will let it.

Interestingly, Morgan had a better day run blocking than I expected. While Walker had a poor first half, he was better in the second. Unfortunately, yet again our problems started with Myers, both in keeping the pocket intact and running. I’m sure Stenavich will tell us Myers is playing the best football of his life, but he didn’t on Friday. Now he’s hurt.

It’s just possible that fate and injury leads to Rhyan at C and Morgan at RG and that we prove to be better in the run game as a result. That would help Willis greatly and finally at least offer the chance to address a multi season weakness. That assumes Rhyan plays adequately of course, which is not guaranteed, but I am More than ready to roll the dice on that against the Colts. Their pass rush is good, but their run D wasn’t. With Willis, we absolutely have to capitalize on that weakness and stunt the rush somewhat at the same time.

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Cheezehead72's picture

September 09, 2024 at 07:41 am

Let me start out with calling out the people that gave me a thumbs down when I predicted the Eagles would cover. So who was right. The Eagles are a very good team. The Packers have the talent to be a good team. Ok enough of tooting my own horn.

This game shows that starters need to play in the preseason more than one series even at the risk of injury. There are only 17 games and giving up the first game and maybe the second to get the starters started and running is too much to give up. MLF should have looked forward and thought that we are playing a division SB contender we need to be ready. This game showed the need.

First there is no reason that professionals should have a flag for 12 guys on the field. This was not 12 guys in the huddle this was 12 guys in on the field at the snap. The offensive line was terrible in the first half. Run blocking and pass protection was totally substandard. Love was inaccurate and did not look ready. The receivers dropped too many passes.

Now on to defense. Haflin is new and needs to learn his player's capabilities. He needs preseason games to do that. Alexander was not playing up to his contract. Most of the time the defense just seemed to be out of sync and not playing on the same page. The tackling was terrible.

Please let's stop the Tannehill talk. He is not much better than Willis and with the pass protection this line provided we need a QB who can run for his life. Yes I know Love is hurt but please stop putting the game on your shoulders. Do not throw that pass to Musgrave. Throw the ball out of bounds.

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dblbogey's picture

September 09, 2024 at 02:13 pm

You seem overly concerned about thumbs down and how smart you are.

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Cheezehead72's picture

September 10, 2024 at 06:09 am

No not really but I do not like it when someone gives a thumbs down and does not leave a reply. If you disagree man up and give a reason for your disagreement. After all we learn more from people we disagree with than people we agree with or at least I do.

It is not that I think highly of my God given intelligence but I find overly optimistic fans annoying. Any real fan would have been able to see the Packers were not going to win that game. The Eagles are a better team. I work off of reality not pie in the sky.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 09, 2024 at 07:47 am

Our first round pick Jordan Morgan got trucked back all the way to the QB. I don't mind giving him the opportunity to start to see what he can do, but once you see that you have to realize he's going to be picked on until it doesn't work anymore.

Sean Rhyan came in at C, which raises the problem that Myers played much of last season hurt and got hurt again in Brazil. Will he ever be able to stay healthy? I don't know if Jordan Morgan was ever replaced but Sean Rhyan is listed as 20 pounds heavier based on his combine 3 years ago, he was the likely sub at RG.

Coaches need to adjust to things like this, and it's worrisome if they still have not improved at this essential skill. I'm curious to see tape of who on our O line contributed to letting JL10 get hurt. Last year they played in a way that would result in QB injury for too much time, and for all their improvement they never provided time for a coke and a smoke in the pocket. Even the most successful passes. JL10 had pressure right in his face immediately after getting the ball out. He was also the beneficiary of some calls for illegal hits.

Injuries prevented the ideal experimentation during TC to arrive at "the best five," but it wasn't good enough against the Eagles. It does make sense that the same personnel choice works against some matchups but not others. There's still work to be done, obviously; our O line is still the area that concerns me the most. The infusion of talent there should be enough, but coaches need to figure out the puzzle pieces.

Without film study, I thought I saw our tackles hold up in pass pro? I'd love to see analysis of our whole line in that game ...

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Coldworld's picture

September 09, 2024 at 08:54 am

Morgan is a rookie. He gave up that one pressure in his first few snaps in his first game at a new position. After that he was good. He wasn’t the problem on the OL, in fact his overall play was encouraging. Unfortunately, Myers was not as cheering. Walker had an off day. One hopes that’s just a relatively inexperienced player working off rust.

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bjkdad44's picture

September 09, 2024 at 12:28 pm

Why the four down votes?? Explain please

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Coldworld's picture

September 09, 2024 at 12:53 pm

I think the take on Morgan is misleading and wrong. I down voted you for that. I didn’t express why because I’ve already commented on the subject elsewhere.

Remember, if you make a lot of points but someone disagrees with one strongly, something I often do, then you willLikely get a down vote.

Down votes don’t worry me. If one has nothing to say then one probably gets few, whereas expressing a view that is not accepted “truth” or is controversial inevitably will (or just saying nice things about Gute gets you 2). Interesting posts are typically flagged by votes, but whether those are up, down or both is irrelevant.

Down vote away, it’s better than no response at all.

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dblbogey's picture

September 09, 2024 at 02:15 pm

LOL. Seriously?

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Cheezehead72's picture

September 09, 2024 at 07:57 am

So last week I gave a song that the NFL should have played for this game. After watching the game I will say they should also have played "Slip Slidin' Away".

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nagawicka's picture

September 09, 2024 at 08:05 am

How're fans feeling? We're doing great. Classic NFL football, entertaining game, competitive down to the wire, against a very very tough Philly team. Why would a Packers fan indulge in Teh Big Sad? I mean, a) it is football; b) you don't get to keep your pretty dreams of effortless dominant football on a golden escalator to the Super Bowl past the 1st half of the 1st game; and c) we got to watch the Packers go to work. Every team gots to work out the kinks. No, crying is not a valid substitute for appreciation, and is point-blank useless. Not seeing a downside to the fan experience here.
Of course, if Krim were big sad or big mad, he'd come right out and detail his priorities. Spell out how he's feelin' Big Yikes.

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Duhawk_47's picture

September 09, 2024 at 11:57 am

Best take I've seen yet...Lotta ball game left!

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ImaPayne2's picture

September 09, 2024 at 08:29 am

The KC game, if you saw it, the Chiefs looked mid season form. They ran a myriad of plays and that offense looked well honed and able to carry out a variety of schemes. The reason, Andy Reid, the smartest coach in the game, played his regulars. His theory, you got three games to practice plays, get in condition and find out who can and cant carry the load. He gets it.
Second, I realized this about three years ago when Reid drafted the fastest guy in the draft that year. He already had some fast receivers and scat backs and the big light when on "the old adage speed kills" is how Andy and the Chiefs keep winning, with speed guys you cant cover the whole game.
We have a slow Nixon coming out of the endzone to run kicks back. You have one receiver who is supposed to have speed doing mostly nothing for three years and your fastest RB you let go for an older guy?
This team is out of shape, not ready for prime time due to no play time, lacks speed all over the place and a new d coach who looks over his head and were expecting good things?
Gonna be a long season.

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Packers0808's picture

September 09, 2024 at 10:00 am

You would think by now that black constant cloud over your head would have burst by now! Risible.

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bjkdad44's picture

September 09, 2024 at 12:31 pm

I guess some fans can’t handle the truth!… (4 down votes…)

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dblbogey's picture

September 09, 2024 at 02:17 pm

Have another downvote. Why the obsession?

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Hitnhope23's picture

September 09, 2024 at 06:00 pm

Couldn't have said it better myself. All one needs to do is watch some of the "real" nfl teams execute, and one quickly comes to the realization that this current team, after all the hype, is not improved over last year and thus your dreams of super bowl glory went down when jl10 went down.

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barutanseijin's picture

September 09, 2024 at 06:33 pm

How did the super genius coach do in the opener last year?

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Lphill's picture

September 09, 2024 at 08:41 am

Replace McDuffie with Cooper , he was very productive with limited snaps .

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TKWorldWide's picture

September 09, 2024 at 09:44 am

Agreed, but, does he know the calls well enough? I am ready to be a big fan of his.

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BirdDogUni's picture

September 10, 2024 at 09:16 am

If he doesn't this week, he'll know the calls by week 4... Just saying.

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LambeauPlain's picture

September 09, 2024 at 08:43 am

"It looked a little different than Joe Barry’s product, but it didn’t produce different results."

3 turnovers looked more than a "little different", Jonathan.

The defense did what Barry Ball rarely did...get turnovers and give the ball back to offense. 3 huge potential game changers that were squandered.

Had the Packers turned those into another 8-21 points, this article would not have been written, Love likely would be getting ready for the the Lambeau opener, and comments this week would discussing visions of Lombardi's dancing in our heads.

The defense was going to be a work in progress while the offense was supposedly a finished product. Now both are in the blueprint stage going into game 2, with the OL, especially the IOL, the weak link in preventing frontal assaults. Tom was solid on the right flank. Walker was a liability on the left.

Stenavich seems to be a very inflexible coach. He has his favorite 5 and that's that. Matt seems content letting him run the OL (If Butkus is making the favorite 5 calls, that's a worse problem).

If Stenavich is not practicing with new combinations this week, he's also a weak link. Walker, Jenks, Monk, Morgan, Tom....Morgan, Jenks, Rhyan, Monk, Tom. Packers O need to be a run first team to open up the pass for Willis. At least Monk had real work in games this preseason and he fights.

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Coldworld's picture

September 09, 2024 at 09:45 am

Last year we managed 7 turnovers. In this game we had 3. We kept them to a very limited yardage per snap. There were some positives definitely, along with issues in coverage. Even that wasn’t as bad as the mess against the Vikings to start the 2022 season.

With the footing issues, let’s see if the d/b tackling whiffs were at least exaggerated by that, but Stokes had a pretty good day in coverage, which I know quite a few were worried about. More generally, there seemed to be mistakes and confusion at the second level in coverage. That isn’t unexpected with a new to the role in the NFL coordinator and a new system with largely the same players (at this point). The Eagles had similar issues.

Cooper showed well in his cameo. The DL did not, although Hurts was effectively contained in the ground. How much of the deficiency in pressure was the emphasis to stop Hurts I can’t tell. Offensively, LaFleur was out called, particularly in the red zone and the inability of Walker and Myers to keep a clean pocket or run block in the case of Myers was striking. That might have been the biggest difference between the teams despite them starting a rookie center.

After one poor snap, Morgan played pretty well in both run and pass. I think we will see younger players forcing their way onto the team. McDuffie has played better, but without his A game he looked horribly overmatched. It might be that Cooper is already a lesser liability with much greater upside.

Both Bissacia and LaFleur need to stop speculative returns from the end zone. It’s simply bad odds under the new rules and Jaire had no viable gap on his return. Both also need to crack down hard on the penalties. Inexcusable disorganization and discipline. How does an O with no rookies snap with 12 men on the field? Why is Myers snapping late on a fairly standard call? I’m interested to see if the Jaire interference call is backed by the league and to see if the Clark penalty is a new reality, but most were just indiscipline.

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nagawicka's picture

September 09, 2024 at 12:40 pm

*math enters the chat*
That's 0.388 turnovers per game LAST year, versus 54 turnovers THIS year.

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barutanseijin's picture

September 09, 2024 at 06:35 pm

51

Math entered the chat and made an arithmetic error.

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nagawicka's picture

September 10, 2024 at 01:53 am

3 TOs x 18 games = 54 turnovers for the season. Three (3) TOs per game projects to 54 total.

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dobber's picture

September 10, 2024 at 08:04 am

17 regular season games played over 18 weeks...but if they can find a way to force 3 additional TOs during the bye, I'll take it! ;)

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BirdDogUni's picture

September 10, 2024 at 09:17 am

LMAO... Well played.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 10, 2024 at 05:38 pm

BDU!! Good to see!!

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nagawicka's picture

September 10, 2024 at 05:28 pm

Uncle! Mea culpa, but was it the MATH?

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nagawicka's picture

September 12, 2024 at 09:47 am

Okay, forgot the bye but the MATH was good!

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 09, 2024 at 08:57 pm

Seven INTs in 2023, two on the ledger, so far this season...they recovered ten fumbles. 17 turnovers created. in 2023. Mid-season stats for most teams.

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GregC's picture

September 09, 2024 at 08:49 am

Way too much doom and gloom in this article. It's too early to talk about needing to "save the season." It was one game. Let's see what happens in the next few weeks. One possibility that comes to mind is getting Edgerrin Cooper and Ty'Ron Hopper on the field sooner rather than later.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 09, 2024 at 08:59 pm

Cannot use special teams aces as your starting LBs. Move Walker out of the middle, or trade him.

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tobinrote's picture

September 09, 2024 at 08:51 am

both LA and Detroit as well as the Ravens and KC looked much readier than the Pack. And face it: we do not have any linebackers who could start on a good D. I did not see much from Love in the game to warrant all the optimism of his being a top tier qb, but the Willis could not figure he had to throw a hail Mary. well all the pre-season hype can now be laid to rest. and did we strike out again on drafting number 1 like trip over his own feet Musgrove, or Invisible Van Ness?

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Coldworld's picture

September 09, 2024 at 09:54 am

Would you say Hurts is? Despite the result, I believe that Love was the better QB. Wick’s two drops and one by Watson early really didn’t help Love’s stats or our momentum. None of those were on Love even in part (Doub’s was badly placed so I split responsibility).

Wicks not only dropped but failed to fight physically for another one inside him. Watson showed no fight for any ball that didn’t just come to him. That’s worse than errors, that’s attitude that can’t be tolerated. Melton might have had one of the plays of the day in contrast, fighting and getting a flag on what seemed like a throwaway.

Love wasn’t stellar, but he wasn’t awful and we certainly didn’t help him get going and stay hot, outside of Reed and Doubs. I’ve seen plenty of Rodgers performances of a similar level even during his peak years.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 09, 2024 at 11:00 am

Love wasn't stellar. The last time he faced an actual pass rush that might hit him was in January, against SF. Our WRs didn't do him a lot of favors; he could have used some better protection, but let's not forget that Philly has a pretty good Dline.

Still, he had almost 300 yards and a pair of TDs. If that's his worst game of the year, I'll take it.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 09, 2024 at 09:03 pm

Yes, too many drops. It ruins timing and cadence in the flow of the game plan. They win against Indy if the D adjusts the attitude.

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crayzpackfan's picture

September 09, 2024 at 10:00 am

Tobin - Invisible Van Ness only got 17 snaps. Kingsley Enagbare had mid 30's Where was he all night? PFF had LVN ranked way higher than him. These coaches bring players along much to slow. It's to the point of damaging their future and development by lack of reps.

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bjkdad44's picture

September 09, 2024 at 12:50 pm

I agree with your comment on LVN… didn’t play a whole lot!

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Lphill's picture

September 09, 2024 at 11:20 am

how many snaps did Van Ness have?

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crayzpackfan's picture

September 09, 2024 at 01:02 pm

17 snaps. He had the lowest snap count of all the ends.

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dobber's picture

September 09, 2024 at 09:20 am

The defense is what the defense is. First meaningful game against a talented, physical opponent. Philly's going to score in the 30s against a lot of teams. Can they play better? Absolutely. But there was good to build on here.

The Colts have seen Willis before--they play in the same division and have a little familiarity with him. They'll probably try to bottle up the run game and confine Willis to the pocket and make him run offense (which is what the Packers will try do to Anthony Richardson)...so if I'm the Packers, I lean into his arm and have him throwing downfield to make some chunk plays and try to open up the run game. He can improvise with his legs if things break down. The Packers can ask Malik Willis to be an accurate, efficient QB, but that's not what he does best. His preseason performances argue he's getting better in that regard, but he's a runner with a gun.

I think this injury has happened in a pretty forgiving part of the schedule...Indy at home, at TN, home against MN. If this team has any grit, these are still winnable games, even with a backup QB.

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GregC's picture

September 09, 2024 at 09:33 am

That sounds like a good plan with Willis. I hated that they started against the Eagles with so many runs up the middle: our O-line's weakness vs. Philly's strength. They should use the passing game to soften up the defense before they do too many runs between the tackles. Of course, Willis needs to connect with the receivers to make it work.

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Coldworld's picture

September 09, 2024 at 10:04 am

Richardson is very like Willis in terms of arm and how he plays. The Colts will be very used to defending that type of QB. He attempted only 19 passes, completing 9, but 3 of those were more than 50 yard completions. That’s probably a template we should consider for Willis. Keep the routes and concepts simple and try to layer touts to give him options deep, intermediate and short.

I’d like to see some designed runs, not just roll outs. Willis is a genuinely good runner with ball in hand, not just fast. Use that to set up springing Jacob’s or Wilson (who needs to play more). I’d like to see Beck elevated and have him and Kraft out there at times. Improve run blocking for RB, QB or just set up Kraft to get deeper. I’m not saying Kraft can’t inline or lead block, just that having another who can would unlock deception.

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Bitternotsour's picture

September 09, 2024 at 10:45 am

Do you have any confidence that MLF will adjust to the circumstances? I expect timidity.

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Coldworld's picture

September 09, 2024 at 11:36 am

How he approaches the Colts game will tell us a lot about LaFleur and his actual abilities as an innovative game planner, strategist and tactician as opposed to play designer. He can go and watch how the Colts use Richardson as an easy crib for the basics. If he didn’t learn from throwing Love out there in the Covid season without a specific game plan and just calling as if he was Rodgers, then I guess he never will.

If he just dinks and dunks then he’s using Willis in the worst possible way and we should probably play Clifford. Let’s see what he comes up with now he’s got a truly good runner with a rocket arm but lots of unknowns as a true QB. Personally I’d have an aggressive mix of rollouts, designed runs and take risks deep on big plays while pounding the rock. If we want to dink and dunk, then play Clifford. I doubt it success but it’s more suited to him.

Richardson’s use yesterday is a good start. Stress them vertically and when we do take a risk make the payoff a big one. He’s as accurate deep as he’s likely to be dinking and dunking, as is Richardson. I doubt the ability of either to sustain 20 play drives. May not work, the Colts lost on Sunday, but it kept them close despite their run game not working.

As someone else said, this adversity will shine a lot of light onto who LaFleur really is as an offensive mind and his self belief.

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Packerpasty's picture

September 09, 2024 at 12:08 pm

I agree, this game will show how innovative MLF is...can he adapt to using Willis in a manner that will keep the Pack competitive?? We'll soon see...sadly, I have my doubts...

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dobber's picture

September 10, 2024 at 08:05 am

Never underestimate a coach's ability to play or coach scared.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 10, 2024 at 06:01 pm

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Should he be conservative and try not to make things worse, Or would you prefer he just boldly dig the hole deeper?

Given the circumstances, this might be one of our better rushing games of the year.

I think that regardless of the injury to Love, you want to run the offense you've been practicing. We'll still take shots downfield. We'll still try to get the ball to Reed. We'll still let our RBs carry a big part of the load. I'm not saying we'll score 29 again, but we should be able to score enough points to have a chance to win.

Indy scored 27 points last week, at home, in a narrow loss to the Texans. Considering they were only on offense for 20 minutes, only threw 19 passes, only completed 9, and barely had 100 yards rushing, you might wonder how they scored 27 points. Those 9 completions for over 200 yards and 2
TDs included some long completions, and we gave up a long TD last week.

IMO, the Packers are going to have to hold these guys under 24 for us to have a decent shot at the win.

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TKWorldWide's picture

September 09, 2024 at 09:50 am

Do the Packers still run the ZBS? Or do they run a mix of zone and power plays? Do they want road graders? My (limited) understanding of zone blocking is mobile, agile linemen who can slide laterally rather than knock defenders back off the ball. Agile guys make better pass blockers, and the NFL is a passing league. The draft is usually heavy on guys who played LT in college, since that’s where most teams put their best lineman.
Don’t get me wrong: I am a HUGE fan of smashmouth football. I just don’t know if that is GB’s plan.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 09, 2024 at 09:52 am

The line that was not built for run blocking, including the much-denigrated Josh Myers, opened enough holes for us to get over 160 yards rushing and a nearly 8 yards/attempt average.

We've started out seasons with worse losses and won 13 games. 38-3? Remember that? That was just a few years ago.

I thought it was a pretty good game for an opener. Yes, we were ragged, and that should have been expected. That's the tradeoff for having all your starters healthy by not playing them. But we scored 29 points and could have/should have had more.

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Bitternotsour's picture

September 09, 2024 at 10:35 am

Green Bay opened the season against one of the best teams in football. That loss will look way different with the benefit of a full season in the rear view. The sky didn't fall (save for a significant injury).

As long as MLF doesn't weaken, the season is still there for the picking.

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Bitternotsour's picture

September 09, 2024 at 10:48 am

Also, though the line was not built for run blocking it was not exactly great at pass blocking. yet they opened some significant holes for runs, and myers was getting to the second level on some of those long gashes. The offense should have laid 40 on Philly. Those first two turnovers should have yielded 14 not six. Would have finished the game.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 09, 2024 at 10:56 am

Okay, I'm going to argue that we should have had 10 instead of 6 off those turnovers. Not every possession inside the 30 gets to the endzone, but good teams do better than 50%.

Still, in the real world, we got 29. That's usually enough to win.

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All offseason, when people were getting lathered up over our attacking, agressive, pressure defense, I kept saying "We'll give up more big plays, too".

At halftime, the Eagles staff said "We'll open the 2nd half by throwing it over their head." And that's what happened. Jaire Alexander, playing aggressive press coverage, bit on a double move and just like that, they were behind him. 7 points on one play. I prefer making teams run 10-15 plays, because they might screw up along the way. One play, and it was the margin of victory.

The Packers surrendered 350 points last year. Now, we're at 34 with 16 games to go. If we hold every opponent to 20 for the rest of the season, we're going to surrender 354 points. That's not an improvement.

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Bitternotsour's picture

September 09, 2024 at 02:52 pm

Your observations notwithstanding regarding scoring defense, the fact of the matter remains that the offense has to be better. The Packers can't afford to settle for 3's and they damn sure have to stop punting inside the 50.

Playing aggressive defense with a 2 score lead is a much better plan than trying it while you're trailing

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LLCHESTY's picture

September 09, 2024 at 11:17 pm

My god man, give it a rest. Doing 8th grade math without context is worthless.

***ONCE AGAIN THEY PLAYED 7 QBs THAT WERE SO BAD THEY ARE NO LONGER ON THE SAME TEAMS!!!***

8 if you count Fields twice. The odds of that happening again are remote. Pretending the teams they play this year are exactly the same as last year is pure foolishness and annoying AF.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

September 09, 2024 at 10:20 am

Pipp, Majkowski, Love.

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

September 09, 2024 at 12:22 pm

😃

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

September 09, 2024 at 12:22 pm

I think this week’s game is going to be a good look at this team’s resilience. Mike McCarthy always preached “overcoming adversity,” and LaFleur has echoed that as well. Love’s injury will spotlight everyone else. Are they up to it? I really hope the receivers make a big jump. Reed was the only one showing aggressive hands in Brazil; that’s the same problem they had at the start of last year.
Hopefully a better field will help them not be distracted.

I said last week that I was concerned about our pass rush; Gary is good, but Smith is aging, Enagbare isn’t dynamic, and VanNess has been disappointing so far. My only hope is that Cooper can add a dangerous blitzing element.

I like the potential of Willis, but I’m not going to judge him over the next few games, if things go badly. He hasn’t had any time in this system. He reminds me of Justin Fields; he can win games for us, but he’s going to need a lot of help.

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Coldworld's picture

September 09, 2024 at 12:58 pm

I saw another guy who reminded me strongly of Fields yesterday. Williams.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 09, 2024 at 03:03 pm

As always, let's hope for the best, and I hate to be negative, BUT......

I can't help but be concerned when a team drafts a QB in the 3rd round, then gives up on him after ONE year and dumps him for a 7th rounder. They must have seen something in him they really didn't like.

But, then again, sometimes a change of scenery.....

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Packerpasty's picture

September 10, 2024 at 12:12 pm

How many seasons does Van Ness, a blue chipper according to where he was drafted, take to become a force?? Showed very little growth over the training camp and off season work so far..

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