Well argued Good Sir. Gracias. GPG! Sincerely, GMJ

The article assumes talent. I think the observations about the front four suggests otherwise in that area. These guys have been, recently, ok against the run although I think the Lions went over 100 against them. Now they can't get to the passer. The talent may not be there. Either that or the coaching but the front four is a big problem.

This is a team that all too often lacks discipline. In the Lions game, the Packers radio team was commenting that the Lions seemed to be trying to bait the Packers into retaliating for being provoked after the play was over. And they did. How many times have we seen drives stalled at critical times by offside penalties? Way too often. The Packers are currently the sixth most penalized team in the league. You can blame this on the youth of the team, but in the final analysis, this comes down to coaching and lack of accountability. Gutekunst needs to get on top of this and LaFleur needs to take a hard look at himself and his staff, and both need to make some tough decisions.

Over years under TT and now a little under Gute - GB has tried to upgrade the linebacker and the Dback position with relatively little success - one might argue Savage and Alexander - but still not world's best - for a first rounder - and when you add in the bad ones - Stokes - back to the Dix Randall of the previous administration - GB still hasnt hit on a worlds' best. The same at the linebacker/ Dline - other than Clark - and the trying to get a new type of linebacker in Walker isnt working out to date - fast but seeminly out of position too much. Hopefully he will develop and maybe some of that is because of coaching. Van Ness and Wyatt all have potential and if they dont develop I believe that we really need to take a look at who is coaching them and does it fit their talent. It seems that other teams such as the Lions and Vikings have the mentality of we are going to impose our will on the other team. What really impressed me about the Lions game was that we really hustled to the ball - Remember the old NO LOAFS mentality of the Bears Urlacher - that is what we had for periods Thursday. Our team is what it is - and as we have proven against the Cowboys last playoff - on any given game we can advance. I am hopeful for a rematch against any team other than Phillie - once we make the playoffs

We have proved we can play with any team in the NFL? Really which ones? We just came off a week where a division rival humiliated our OL with 3rd and 4th stringers and made our D look like a sieve. We haven’t beaten any team with a leading record. We can play at being a pretender but we have just been manicured poseurs when the real teams come around. They say teams reflect their coaches. We need a new mirror or a new person to gaze into it.

My guess is that the team will not advance to the next level, ie., Lion's, Chief's, Bill's level without a GM/HC change-sorry to say that as I am very fond of MLF.

-Also, it won't happen. GB moves at glacial speed

Unless you're willing to blow the whole roster up.
You make do with the guys you have.
Calling to move on from Walker is ridicules.
The grass isn't greener on the other side!
No body has been more vocal about Gute's drafting
then me.
Don't blame MLF; when the players Gutekunst takes,
are more body builders, than gladiators.
Strength and honor, isn't how the packers were built.
And his high picks, are nursing something every game.
Gute has become a business man.
His GM ability; must be called into question before MLF.

Just read this on another site about Stokes...

"Stokes hasn’t recorded a pass breakup or interception since Week 16 of his rookie season. That’s 1,176 defensive snaps, including 715 coverage snaps and 91 targets, without disrupting a single pass."

How in the HELL is this guy even on the field? Hasn't laid a finger on a single football since his ROOKIE year. I'd put Kalen King out there or go raid someone's practice squad and put ANYONE else out there other than Stokes.

I mean common people think about that...

I question the assumption that the Packers were thought to be contenders this season.

What is plainly evident is this team needs a personnel upgrade. The Lions, Vikings Eagles simply have more good players. Bob McGinn used to classify the best players in a 'blue' category. The Packers simply don't have enough 'blue' players. You can talk all you want of Matt LF vs. Dan Campbell but Campbell should be fired if he can't take that level of talent to the Super Bowl. The Lions have been picking high in the draft for years and if you look across their roster it shows. The Packers have been consistently picking lower and that shows. Gute has followed his mentor Ron Wolf by not doing so hot in the first round but finding some gems in the lower rounds. Gute needs a home run this coming draft.

I also look for the Packers to make a couple major moves in free agency. They're poised for a Super Bowl run in 2025. Then the doors could come off as many of the young players will be up for new contracts.

There are 3 teams in the NFC who can legitimately claim to be better than the Packers....Eagles, Vikes, Lions.
There are 12 teams that have a worse record than 9-4. We beat the Rams, Cards, 49ers, Bears. Some of the others we haven't played.

That's where we are. Although the division title is still a possibility, the more likely possibility is that we'll be a Wildcard and the #5 or #6 seed. We'll get to play the winner of either the South or West. If we get past that, we could be in the NFC final four.

The youngest team in the league. Playoffs in 5 out of 6 seasons. Our HC is #12 all-time in winning %.

They also keep a coaching stat that I like because it rewards guys who've done it longer, and it's called games over .500 Shula, Halas, Bellichick, Reid at the top. LaFleur will be #31 on that list soon, right behind Chuck Knox and Bill Parcells. Every single guy ahead of him on that list coached quite a bit longer than 6 years. A few more successful seasons and he's going to be in Chuck Noll/MikeHolmgren territory.

Plus, LaFleur is a youngster. We could get a real nice run out of him. Let's say he averaged 11 wins a season for 10 years, he'd basically have a HOF resume as one of the winningest coaches in NFL history.

So....I'm pretty happy with what's happening. Let's see if we can finish the season 13-4 and secure the #5 seed. We were in the NFC final four last year, and I'd like to do it again this year.

Green Bay has competed in a weak, North division for many years and it was fairly easy to dominate the Bears, Vikes and Lions.
The tables have now turned and the North is now the most dominant division. Green Bay will have to bring their D standards way up. They have been careless with 1st round Defensive Draft capital and it is imperative to draft better and look for proven players in FA and start to build a Defensive foundation and identity. Jordan Love cannot be expected to carry the team. Patrick Mahomes has a very strong D and a 1st rate coach.
Green Bay is on notice.

"Brian Gutekunst’s failure to upgrade the cornerback position this offseason may be the team’s ultimate undoing."

To be fair, he didn't fail to upgrade the CB position, he chose not to try in favor of concentrating elsewhere. It was a calculated risk. Currently, it seems it will determine the end of GB's postseason; however, had he not focused on drafting O line and LB, our chances would hardly be better. The strategy was focus on CB in 2025 if need be, and now the need is very clear.

There are also many players who are playing, but are playing injured. Plus those out due to injury.

It's possible to finish 12-5 by losing to the Viqueens and winning the rest. Of course, 13-3 would be that much better.

GPG!!

Stop crying girls.
We've seen dominant teams entering playoffs and being K.O.-ed by wild card holders. We've already bee there on both sides. Last year we were told not to have a small chance against Cowboys.
Just go into the playoffs and be as healthy as you can be. There rest is a coin toss.

There is video of Lions NT almost touching our OC on many snaps and bringing instant pressure on JL via our Center. Okay ML you need to have contingencies if the officiating crew is not doing their job about defenses lining in the neutral zone. Put Clark in as a TE and move him in motion as the ball is snapped and level the NT with a full head of steam a couple times or until he backs out of there. Pain works when the officials do not. GPG

Never mind the Lions, worry about Seattle and Minny...