Poor… poor… RICH… Jordan Morgan!!

He needs to be fined and made to run suicides!

Spot on NP. That was a bad game by Jordan Morgan and he needs to come out Sunday night breathing fire and seeking redemption from that fiasco.

The offense and special teams were bad against the Browns. They need to do much better in Dallas. Yes, the offense was missing a couple of WRs and a couple of O-linemen. Next man up!

How much film prep did Morgan watch of the Browns left side DL during the 10 days leading up game? I will hanker a guess...not a second.

Tom was obviously a very iffy start...so what was the player game plan if he couldn't go? To play Morgan who not only has never had game snaps at RT in the NFL, or College...and probably not a single minute of coaching prep to play the position vs the Browns over the last 10 days?

Who is in charge of getting the OL ready? Just because Morgan has played both Guard spots and some LT in the preseason, he's fine to plug in at RT because...why? Who made this decision to with Morgan over Belton or Kinnard?

Maybe you see excuses for players...I see continued excuses for the coaching operation at OL. They have been given a tremendous amount of player investments from the draft and FA and they are still guessing, unsure who the best combinations are. This is the achilles heel of the Packers...as the team is going into week 4.

LaFleur is now concerned they are putting their OL players in poor positions to you know ... block! You can rag on Morgan, but the entire OL played disjointed, not in unison, confused and thinking at the snap. Worst OL performance in years.

Why make excuses for Morgan?

Well when one's default view of the world is that every Packer 1st round pick is a stud and those who dare think otherwise are deluded, what else is there to do when Morgan does his best Tony Mandarich impression as he did on Sunday?

Besides, the 5 year run of making excuses for Darnell Savage has come to an end.

And the 4 year run of trying convince Packer fans their eyes were lying to them when it came to Eric Stokes' level of play ceased after last season.

So we are on to project Jordan Morgan where it was always the plan to use a 1st round pick on a guy who, 20 games into his career, has no set position and, so far, has played like an undrafted free agent when inserted into the lineup.

Nick I agree Morgan was a first round draft choice but that was not his decision. He decided to enter the draft. Gute decided to draft him in the first round. So who is to blame? Yes Morgan had the penalties but Gute chose him.

And then we can look at the decision to have him learn multiple positions. Who decided to do that? Well that falls on MLF and Gute. Maybe he should have been trained on one position and maybe a back up position until he matured. Maybe its just been to much for him.

Lastly maybe he was thrown into the fire too fast because Gute and MLF want to save face on their draft choice.

Point is there are other things to look at.

I agreed instinctively but then my conscious brain looks back to last year and to the summer and recall that we’ve had him competing at RG, at LT and backing up at LG. We have never given him a prolonged run at RT even with the seconds. He was almost exclusively a LT in college. So he is not only practicing every position but C and RT, he’s now being thrown in at RT. Is it any wonder his technique looked messed up. It did last week at RG as well. One wonders if it’s now also affecting his confidence. You say everyone is good. Yes, that’s why the difference comes from technique, preparation and reps.

At some point this is not all on the player. At some point coaching decisions deserve to be questioned regarding how they use and how well they set up players to succeed or evaluate them as the best man up not on paper but readiness. This isn’t new, these errors have happened before. Hansen/Newman over Tom, then Jenkins over him. The handling of Nijman. It’s not just Morgan. It might just be the majority of the reason he’s struggling even.

A significant part of football has always been motivation. Great coaches have their teams mentally as well as physically ready to compete. LaFleur seems to struggle in that area. Periodically the Packers seem to come out unprepared for the physical combat that is NFL football and they get dominated.

Now the defense was ready last Sunday, but the offense and special teams could not march the Browns intensity and commitment over four quarters. And the result was unsurprising.

Agreed Steve,
Watching the Lions last night was like "Oh F%#K, good thing we played them early, they'll kill us next time!"
And Campbell has done this in 5 years, built a powerhouse, Damn!

This is a very young team and both of your concerns can be cleaned up as the season progresses. All season is important, but the most important is how you finish. I understand your thoughts on last nights game, but let’s put it into perspective. Last night Baltimore couldn’t stop the run if their life depended on it and our Packers kicked Detroits ass big time this year. How soon we forget how dominant we looked in the first two weeks. In addition, we have the lowest scoring defense in the NFL after 3 weeks.

There’s just too much overreaction to one game that wasn’t as important as the 1st two games or the 4th which are all NFC teams with one being in division. We had the youngest team the last two years as well and Lafluer has proven he can get a young team to the playoffs. Now, it’s time to take the next step and I’m still very optimistic this will be a special year.

Hound dog!… you hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial head ‼️‼️

Totally agree.

Disappointed with the reaction to people criticising LaFleur. Among them “go and feel the wind” and “it’s only week 3”.

Totally missing the point. This isn’t just about week 3 but a much longer catalogue of very poor coaching, game preparation and in-game management by our esteemed head coach. That can’t just be disregarded. He is not a “great head coach”. Not even close.

Now for some balance the Packers drive a couple of weeks ago after the Commanders made the score a little uneasy towards the end of the game was creative and outstanding resulting in a TD. Trouble is how often do we see that.

That on Sunday, particularly in the fourth quarter, but also throughout was utterly unacceptable (besides the defense obviously).

I revisited the comments following the victory over Washington, and it was eye-opening. I hadn't realized this before, but many of you were noticeably absent from those discussions. It seems that while the Packers are successful, there's a lack of engagement, but as soon as setbacks occur, a lil adversity the comments section explodes with criticism and negativity, often accompanied by downvotes against those who disagree without any real explanation.

Considering your current criticisms of MLF's coaching, motivational skills, and ability to instill discipline, why wasn't there similar scrutiny after the team's wins against two of the top NFC playoff teams from last season? Or, maybe try some praise. Oh, that's right he won't get that until he wins a SB and is perfect in your mind with everything he does. This approach feels a bit hypocritical.

Let the downvotes begin:)

Um, there are two or three articles to read every day on the site, so what are you talking about?

Sub par play Maybe

What caused the sub par play. The offense. We have all the same guys back on the staff when Rogers was here.

Defense was ready to go …..Coaching …….

If we didn’t have a good coaches on the Defensive side we would be 0-3

Commanders kicker missed two kicks. Big game changer…

The statue of QB. Won the same number of Super Bowls as Farve and Rogers

Nope, its not just you, Ken!
I'm sick of this shit, year after year the Pack is just good enough, but no cigar! They tease us and tease us but can't take that one last step, and they too often find a way to lose the most winnable games, Damn!
I'm a Packer fan in 49er territory, and if Ed Policy is anything like his father, MLF's constant "We need to do a better job of coaching" won't last very long. His father would have accommodated you by sending you down the road.

Ken, if we beat the Cowboys, we'll be 3-1.

Lots of premature evaluation going on here. Our offensive line had a bad game. We were playing backups who weren't as good as the starters and we couldn't get points on the board.

Then I guess there haven't been very many good teams...ever, because with the exception of the 2007 Patriots, every team has lost games during the season. I guess that none of them were good enough to win games that they should have lost.

We turned the ball over twice in the last 4 minutes, after having done very little with it the previous 56 minutes.

Keeping Myers was not the answer. As to Banks, we need him to get healthy. A hindered Banks has not been the answer either. If we need to sit him then we need to be willing to put out players like Kinnard and let them practice there till he’s healthy. Make a decision on Morgan at RT and leave him there too till Tom is reliably healthy. For now, practice should be Walker, Kinnard, Jenkins, Rhyan & Morgan or Walker, Morgan, Jenkins, Rhyan & Belton. Pick one and stick to it for every possible practice snap.

So find a scrap pile C and start him at the position with no knowledge of the Packer playbook. OK. That will improve the OL play?

Here is what could happen, but will not. Fire Butkus, put Stenovich back in charge of the greatest need on the team...producing competent OL play...and make Luke Getsy OC. That would be bold action. Tell the team accountability will be enforced, Coaches as well as Players.

Expect more "status quo" from Matt. Feet of clay when it comes to personnel...especially with his O staff club, where he only makes changes when forced to.

"The time is now to find a decent center off the scrap pile if any exist"

There are two issues here. First we need to determine the existence of "the scrap pile." Do any exist? Next, we'll need to determine its location, and then send someone to find a decent center. Wait, that may be three issues. Who do we send to find the elusive decent center? Milt? f it is Milt, he's gonna need the corporate credit card for gas and snacks.

Anyway, do we start with Security to establish the existence of "the scrap pile" or is that something to run up the pole to Policy? I'm asking. I don't know. To me, the entire mess reeks of silos and lack of accountability. Where is the BOD on any/all of this?

There's been little talk of pad level as of late, and I don't think anyone has demonstrated the The Packer Way since William Henderson retired. Why can't Gute sign guys who don't get injured? Huh? Is that so difficult? Gawd!

Whale needs to come back and be associated with the Team…

So all those years, when we've been scoring points and winning games, you've been leery. Were you leery when we developed Day 3 guys into competent starters.?

"I've been leery of the OL coach, Butkus, for a long time."

About how long would you say you've been leery of Coach Butkus?

Since, I think the offense looked unprepared and flat because we weren't getting people blocked, plain and simple. I don't think that's going to be a persistent problem for us. We'll get Tom and Banks and we'll be fine.

Remember, worst case scenario, we'll lose in Dallas and be 2-2. If we can get our line straightened out and healthy by then, I think we're in decent shape. These guys like Jacobs didn't suddenly forget how to gain yards when they got off the plane in Cleveland, but the blocking wasn't there.

I fear we will...

Are you seriously suggesting the organization spend millions of dollars and countless hours of time and energy to signing guys like Banks, and drafting guys like Morgan and Belton....just change direction after one loss?

Of course not.

Jenkins, at Center, gets to call out the blocking assignments at the line. He handles the ball on every play. He can help out either guard. He's in a position to catch the DL offside. He helps us more at Center than he would at LG.

We spent a big pile of money to bring Banks here and play LG, so Jenkins could play Center. We're not going to scrap that after one bad week.

For this week, I'd prepare to play Walker, Belton, Jenkins, Rhyan, Morgan. If Banks or Tom is truly ready, great, otherwise, we should practice and play with this group.

Johhny: Spot on about LaFleur. He doesn't have the ability to change plays or see what is needed. Terrible clock management with a 10-0 lead. Defense knew what was coming. Coaches had preseason to get the line set and now entering week#4 we don't know who are the best five. Not good

"It's revealing that we don't know what the O-line will look like against Dallas. We don't know because I don't think the coaches know."

That's my concern too, JL.

I'd like to take that question.

I agree that we cannot depend on Jordan Love to dominate. We do need a consistent, productive running game, which has been lacking.

Why do you think this is? Has Jacobs forgotten how to get yards? No, the problem is we aren't getting guys blocked. It's that simple. Fix that, and our running game is going to be a good one.

Even last week, War Horse Jacobs (I actually like that name) he got 16 carries and 9 targets (5 catches). That's a huge percentage of the number of snaps we had and the yards we gained. Even if other stuff isn't working at all, you can give it to WarHorse, and if you can just give him a little bit of help,he keeps you in the game..

Every QB needs a decent running game. Just ask Mahommes, shit he's lucky there not 0-3 after that debacle. If it wasn't for his unbelievable play after his big mistake of throwing the ball backwards, the game would've of been a loss. By the way Mahommes threw the ball backwards at the feet of the RB twice in the game. Both times, they were live balls and they were lucky that neither became a turnover.

no we got spines and mine hurts most days too, too many years of blue collar labor...the reason why most are so upset is because we've seen this show before from MLF and Love and neither has seemed to grow, as a HC or a QB...