2024 CHTV Watch Party: Vikings vs Packers

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egbertsouse's picture

September 29, 2024 at 11:57 am

No Jaire. Big surprise, he always seems to miss the Vikings games.

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egbertsouse's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:09 pm

Not looking good.

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NFLfan's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:10 pm

Defense is not pressuring Darnold consistently-he has way too much time.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:11 pm

No Jaire, so they go man and three rushers.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:12 pm

Does Hafley understand the QB he is playing against? You need to place pressure on him, as he will make mistakes. Lots of them. McDuffie drops ball in his bread basket....sheesh!

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:19 pm

THIS is what I'm talking about when I say "get the TEs more involved!" They broadcast #88 on the play, and he STILL got the first first down! It wasn't pretty, this is Musgrave. MLF could have mimicked the Queens playcalling, but I think Josh Jacobs has been more effective than Aaron Jones so far. A comparison I really don't want to have to make.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:23 pm

Heath has to go low for the ball. Should have been six

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:23 pm

Is this a good time to remind everybody that we didn't miss a single FG from 40 or under last year?

Packers move the ball well on their first possession, but stop themselves with a penalty, a dropped pass, and a missed FG, one right after the other.

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Lphill's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:25 pm

Need a kicker

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CanPackFan's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:26 pm

Too many mistakes early. We can't beat a good team playing this way...

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NFLfan's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:26 pm

Packers are playing nervous.

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JJB's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:26 pm

Everyone keeps supporting gute and this is the crap u get. Pathetic at early round drafting and kicker should get him fired

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:34 pm

Not the brightest bulbs on his RAS List. No Pass rush. Stoke grabbing? He had coverage, but horseshit technique.
Hafley best stay two-deep, or this shit show will go down like Badger in the 3rd quarter.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:44 pm

Hafley didn't, and the defense stiffened.

So there's that.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:27 pm

These penalties are really getting ridiculous.

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NFLfan's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:27 pm

where is Rashan Gary? Is he off today?

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egbertsouse's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:29 pm

He’s taken the whole season off so far.

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egbertsouse's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:31 pm

A PI penalty. Now we can blame the refs for this debacle.

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NFLfan's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:31 pm

I'm turning it off for the next 30 minutes-the product out there looks unprepared in all 3 components.
If the D and the kicker don't improve, pull Love-he can't carry this mess w/an injured leg.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:45 pm

He literally carried that mess.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:33 pm

Joe Montana...err Sam Darnold...is having quite a game!

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CanPackFan's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:34 pm

Penalty-fest. Defense looks terrible!

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SwedeBayPacker's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:35 pm

This game is painful to watch.

Can't stop the run, can't stop the pass, can't get to Darnold.

Penalties galore, seems to be the only thing consistent with this team.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:37 pm

Vikings 2nd TD drive: Facemask on Cooper, PI on Stokes, Defensive Holding on Nixon. Three first downs and over 40 yards. See, the STATS will look great, because we didn't give up very many rushing yards, or passing yards, so unless you actually measured by POINTS, you don't realize that this was a bad defensive series.

14-0 During the Brett Favre years, we NEVER came back from more than 14. Rodgers did it a couple of times, but if we fall any further behind then that's going to be a real ominous development.

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KurtMc's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:40 pm

We Sit Love. He has no zip on the ball. Yes, receivers dropped a few but that int is on him

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:46 pm

No zip on the ball?

Okay, I see this post was early in the game.

Love has looked fine.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:40 pm

And now an interception. Is it too early to start drinking?

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egbertsouse's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:42 pm

Time to take out Love before he gets hurt.

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jhil's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:50 pm

Yeah it's a blowout anyway

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:44 pm

Walker cannot be the guy at LT. Watson lucky he didn't get his knee snapped. Viqueens fourth completion along the left side on first down. Darnold is a left-handed, Hafley, figure it out...yet?

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egbertsouse's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:45 pm

Time to trade Jaire, Gary and Clark. If anyone wants them.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:48 pm

Jaire, I get it, availability.
Gary, I get it, you look at stats and not the field.
Clark? I have no idea where you're getting Clark from. Are you watching the same game?

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CanPackFan's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:47 pm

Nervous and unprepared at home? Terrible in all 3 aspects of the game.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:47 pm

How many screens have they run down the Pack's throats?

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egbertsouse's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:48 pm

LaFleur, see how a real team works in the red zone? Take notes!

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SwedeBayPacker's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:50 pm

And good night.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:51 pm

No More Years, for Nixon...GARY, not square to the line. O'Connell is killing them with his outside game. Piss poor technique by the edge people.

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Lphill's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:51 pm

Soft team soft coaches , Same old story .

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:50 pm

Soft teams don't rally back from a 28-0 deficit at half time.

Yes, they lost, and that sucks. But this team isn't 'soft'.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:52 pm

First 3 drives:

73 yds...TD
73 yds...TD
46 yds...YD

Darnold 154.2 QB rating.

Wow!

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:52 pm

That was a terrible effort by McKinney on the block against him. 1st time, I have seen him lack effort.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:54 pm

Thank God Joe Barry isn’t here or we’d be getting gashed on the ground and giving up short completions. Remember how often teams scored 3 straight .TDs on us to start the game?

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egbertsouse's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:59 pm

Yeah, with Barry we’d only be down 20-0.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:04 pm

Never happened even once.

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SwedeBayPacker's picture

September 29, 2024 at 12:59 pm

Narveson can't hit a barn wall from inside the barn....

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:02 pm

But he doesn’t miss extra points, like Carlson did.

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KurtMc's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:00 pm

Wow, booing at home. Deserved.

Old fashioned ass kicking. Painful to watch.

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Lphill's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:01 pm

another missed kick who’s gonna defend this bum now .

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egbertsouse's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:01 pm

Is Gute going to find a real kicker soon? Instead of these Al Del Greco lookalikes?

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jhil's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:02 pm

Anybody have Mason Crosbys's number?

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:03 pm

If there was a 4th phase in football, they'd probably be terrible at that today too. Hopefully, they'll get it out of their system this game and move on. This game, for all intents and purposes, is over.

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egbertsouse's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:03 pm

The last 2 weeks we have been playing bottom feeders while the Vikings have been playing good teams. It shows.

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Schradsbackn's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:05 pm

COME ON GB. SCORE HERE THEN GET KICK OFF 2ND HALF SCORE AGAIN. 21-14 LETS GO

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Schradsbackn's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:05 pm

GOING TO HAVE TO BRING BACK CARLSON

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:07 pm

Yup 👍

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:10 pm

Regarding the situation around Carlson...I totally understand the Packers looking for something better, but they seemed to have waited to long. Sometimes you play with what you have because the devil is in the unknown.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:06 pm

I think this game is going to get closer. It’s only the second quarter.

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egbertsouse's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:14 pm

Yep. It might be 28- 3 before long.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:51 pm

I guess you were very wrong.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:07 pm

So a wake-up call! Game is not over!! But this is an every man step-up situation. No more penalties. No more watching somebody else make a play (o-line & others). Catch the damn ball defense and offense! Go Pack!!

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Packers0808's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:07 pm

Love should be on bench, to this point he is damaged goods.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:52 pm

Thank you for letting us all know you don't know what you're watching.

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egbertsouse's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:07 pm

That’s our $55 mil man!!

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:12 pm

Doubs dropped the pass into the CBs hands. It's on HIM.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:54 pm

It sure is, and he almost overcame a 28-0 deficit.

Love actually had a plus performance today. You're going to read the stat sheet and see the 3 INTs, but those weren't on Love.

Love knocked off some rust in Q1 and overall played a hell of a game.
He did not get great support from his receivers today, unfortunately.

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Schradsbackn's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:08 pm

ITS HORRIBLE MARV. BRING IN MALIK

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SwedeBayPacker's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:09 pm

Why am I even watching this clown show, I could be playing Space Marine II instead.... Or I could be punching myself in the groin, it would be more enjoyable than this.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:11 pm

Nixon 1:1 w/ Jefferson is an automatic TD. Hafley getting schooled.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:55 pm

Limited options when your #1 corner and the #1 backup are both out.

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MooPack's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:11 pm

Time to put Malik in. No reason to risk an insult to injury with this shit show.

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egbertsouse's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:11 pm

I’ve been reading all week how Darnold sucks. I sure hope he doesn’t get good!

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NFLfan's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:13 pm

Someone who understands quality kickers should supervise Gutekunst and Bissaccia while shopping for a decent kicker.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:16 pm

Doesn't look like Love took many reps in practice...

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:56 pm

Love was fine.

What were you taking issue with?

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:17 pm

Is Walker missing his blitz pick-up or what?

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MooPack's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:21 pm

That’s bullshit. Hand under ball.

Two plays in a row. Since blades of grass are going to overturn plays, I’d direct the grounds crew to cut the field shorter.

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MadJam's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:22 pm

Flag day!

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:23 pm

A TD here might make half time more bearable.

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Booner's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:24 pm

The whole team is unwatchable! Poor poor coaching! Their receivers are eating our DB's lunch! Stokes is shit and Alexander never plays against the Vikings he's scared shitless about Jefferson! This team will not get to post season. Jones is ripping Gute a new one today! What a fucking joke!

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Dragon5's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:25 pm

Down 28, things looking up. For starters, we won't be going for 3 in 2nd half :)

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:25 pm

Has Lafluer ever had a successful challenge?

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:42 pm

Matt LaFleur has had 37 challenges since he joined the Packers, and he's 17-20.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:22 pm

It was a rhetorical question, but gee thanks anyway.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:25 pm

Now, Tom getting schooled

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KurtMc's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:26 pm

Wasted & stupid challenge.

MLF and his entire staff are getting schooled.

Horrible. Turn the page & prepare for next week

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Booner's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:27 pm

Walker is a fucking moron!

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:28 pm

Let's hope GB shows some pride during these last 2 minutes. Gotta take something out of this half.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:29 pm

On that 4th down pass...TE wide open down the right sideline for a first down. Still have to play the game.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:33 pm

Any word on Christian's injury?

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:33 pm

Third Drop by Doubs. Not a goto guy ,today.

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Booner's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:35 pm

Bring back Dingle Barry!

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:37 pm

The mark of a Champion is that when they get knocked down, they get back up. They don't just give up in the second quarter. The Packers are plenty capable of scoring enough points to get back in this game.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:44 pm

The D has to get a three and out, or force a TO to get the momentum turned. Get the ball to the guys who want to win.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:38 pm

NEVER QUIT!

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:40 pm

Dammit, Matt!! Settle down!!

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:43 pm

On the other hand, maybe that is what this team needs to see!?

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:40 pm

ANOTHER FUCKING PENALTY!!!!! You couldn't make this bs up.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:42 pm

Forget Doubs, get the ball to Reed if you want to WIN this game. He and Kraft are the playmakers. Vegas call by the refs. LaFleur was signaling at the 28 second mark and the SJ was looking right at him.

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Packerpasty's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:51 pm

he wasn't signaling for a TO he was bitching that it was a catch and TD which it wasn't..he should do better coaching and less bitching and losing when he does throw a red flag....

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NFLfan's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:43 pm

Love can't push off his left leg. (I have a meniscus injury and have found out that everything is connected to the knee-lol)
He's not ready to play.
And, the D and their coach are being schooled.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:55 pm

Re: meniscus injury::

Isn't it crazy how you can walk up stairs just fine.. but god damn, trying to go down those stairs is an entirely different situation, isn't it? lol.

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NFLfan's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:38 pm

@Oppy-both hurt for me-
I can relate to Love not being able to generate power. He'll heal but he's nor ready.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:36 pm

You're listening to the talking heads and not watching the ball on the field.

Love produced plenty of heaters on the field today.

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Sauerpower's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:43 pm

Did the Viking pay off the refs again?

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Packerpasty's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:50 pm

childish...are you watching this shit show or what?? Refs have nothing to do with the Packers terrible play so far...

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:01 pm

Sometimes you play poorly.
Sometimes the refs bone you.
Sometimes, both happen.

I agree that we're just playing poorly. The refs could have chosen to call the helmet-to-helmet on the interception but they didn't. That's about it.

We can get back in this game, but that means we're going to have to pass, and that means we're going to have to protect.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:51 pm

Missing in the melee, is 2 defensive stops by the Packers in difficult situations.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:52 pm

I'd like to say I'm shocked at how many posters here are reacting to the scoreboard and not paying attention to the play on the field in terms of Love's performance.

He looks just fine out there. Yeah, it's clear his mobility isn't 100%, but he's throwing the ball just fine. Only 'questionable' throw was the tight window to Watson, and he got it in there and it hit Watson's hands. The other INT, in my opinion, was intended for Doubs and the TE mistakenly went up for a ball that wasn't meant for him and deflected it.

Defense is clearly outmatched without Jaire and Valentine available.

I hate to say it, but the Vikings are a good team in the first 1/4 of the 2024 season.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:57 pm

Rust is to be expected, and it is obvious to me, he is still not 100%, but Jordan's arm is not the problem.

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Packerpasty's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:52 pm

So if the Pack doesn't score on its possession after half should they take Love out?? Why not?

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:57 pm

Because he's the starting QB, and there's plenty of time left. That's why not.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:53 pm

0 sacks/0 QB hits/1 TFL vs 1 sack/6 QB hits/3 TFL.

That HAS to change in the 2nd half if there is any chance of getting back into this game. It can be done. It's gut check time.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:53 pm

Oh, yeah, one more reminder:

You can't have an amazing come from behind win, without first having fallen into a monumental deficit.

Let's see if Hafley is a good DC, or a great one.

GPG

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:42 pm

Close but no cigar.

The defense did an admirable job from the vikings' last two or three drives of the first half, up until they allowed the TD late in the 4th.

The Packers WRs started catching the ball and they had a chance down to the wire.

Poor showing from both Offense and Defense in the first half, and of course, Narveson's horrible outing, too much to overcome.

WR's were not in sync. They had a poor start to the season, then weren't really used much or at all for the last two weeks (exception; Reed), and it looked like it in the first half.

Everything that could go wrong, did, in the first 30:00 of regulation.

Let's hope Jaire, Valentine, Kraft, and Wyatt all heal up. Watson, too... and let's see how Love's MCL responds to his first game back.

Dust it off and get back on the horse.

GPG

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 01:54 pm

I just want to remind everybody that beating the Vikings when they think they have a chance to win is more fun than just beating them. I'd also point out that we were 2-5 last year. I'd also like to point out that Minnesota has a long history of fast starts and feeble finishes.

We could score on the first possession of the 2nd half and make it 28-14. Plenty of time yet.

I can see the argument for Willis. Love doesn't look like his leg is right yet. Still, if we want to score 21 points in the second half, we're going to have to throw.

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MooPack's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:05 pm

Refs need remedial training on balls touching the ground when hands are clearly under the ball. Their subjective reading of the rule is wrong.

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Since'61's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:07 pm

At least the Packers salvaged the TD before the half. Maybe take the opening kickoff and get to 28-14. Still too many penalties and so far an ineffective pass rush.

Let's see what the 2nd half brings. GPG! Thanks, Since '61

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:08 pm

I am really struggling with the 3rd and long 4 man rush with a zone coverage defense.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:10 pm

And then....Vikings go to the well with A. Jones one to many times. I am telling you we have more interceptions to have in this game coming.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:09 pm

25 yds/16 yds/12 yds/9 yds. Where are the adjustments?

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Since'61's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:10 pm

3 and out terrible start to the second half for the offense.
Defense getting pushed all over the field again.
Thanks, Since '61

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:12 pm

Yeah, a bad start, and then the long pass, but then we make an interception and we're still alive. With a great chance to make some long plays. That's a lot of field to defend against a fast group.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:16 pm

I was really hoping they would come out in the 2nd half with some fire in their belly's. Instead, two meager 3 and outs. Not good.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:20 pm

Dude, the offense is not working today. AT all. Zero points. That's 0%, It's hard to win a football game like that. Usually, a goose egg is either poor QB play or bad Oline play or both. I think it's legitimate to ask whether we might have been better to leave good enough alone and play with the team that won the last two games. At least they moved the ball and scored.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:35 pm

It's like you're not even watching what was happening on the field.
O line & QB were good for the most part.

WRs own majority of the responsibility to drive stalls on this day. LOTS of drops.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:27 pm

Another promising drive...another back breaking penalty

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Since'61's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:30 pm

Penalty on Kraft killed a promising drive. Thanks, Since '61

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:35 pm

We certainly haven't helped ourselves.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:31 pm

Wicks better spend significant time on the juggs this week!

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:33 pm

Defensively, I'm not seeing a big improvement over last year, despite the acquisitions of McKinney, Bullard, Cooper and the return to the field by Alexander and Stokes. Alexander is out today. We should be good enough to stop people from scoring 4 straight TDs on our own field. It isn't that high of a bar. I hope this is our worst defensive effort of the season.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:40 pm

When Morgan comes back, I want to see nothing but him working at left tackle.

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Leatherhead's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:44 pm

Unless he's our starting LT of the future, taking him at 25 doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I kind of thought all along that they would platoon Walker and Morgan until Morgan was ready to handle it.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:45 pm

The Bronx cheers today at Lambeau are great!

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:48 pm

In what seems like a total blowout by Minnesota.....we both have 18 first downs, we've outgained them by 20 yards, and are winning the TOP. Very weird.

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Sauerpower's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:48 pm

LET'S DO THAT A FEW MORE TIMES.

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NFLfan's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:48 pm

Vikings beat the Texans & 9ers too. They are a well-coached team with a great D.

However, we all know that relying on Jones will not be wise because he will be out for 30-40% of the season

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:51 pm

OMG this is fun, now!

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Since'61's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:51 pm

OK we have a chance now. 28-21 Vikes. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:53 pm

28-22. Gutsy call by MLF!!!

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:52 pm

Wow! I guess that's why they play 4 quarters! Hang on!!!

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:55 pm

Nice time for another turnover D!!

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:56 pm

53 yards in 3 plays. Damn

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 02:58 pm

Packers caught here with Wyatt out. Slaton is up or they have to put LVN to tackle.

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13TimeChamps's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:02 pm

Now it's a 2 score game. That hurt.

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RobinsonDavis's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:07 pm

Bullard has got to block better on the punt return.

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NFLfan's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:21 pm

Love could not get velocity on the ball. Not his fault.

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nagawicka's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:26 pm

LIGHTNING

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Packers0808's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:31 pm

Know any good FG kickers, think I know a team in the market for one Right Now!

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PhantomII's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:39 pm

Plenty of blame for this game. JL did not play well before injury...either. In the end a lot to clean up and we will improve. This is why you PAY your kicker to make the kicks....Being cheap with a kicker will only lose us more games...you'd have thought the playoffs last season were enough to learn from...but alas...granite heads are making the decisions here.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 04:05 pm

You think the kicking situation is about money?
No sir. It's about missing on the talent evaluation, and not having better options.

I applaud the Packers for moving on from Carlson because he wasn't good enough after 2023 and he didn't show enough improvement in camp to warrant putting more time into, but ultimately, there wasn't a lot of talent out there to bring in to replace him. They rolled the dice on a strong legged kid with no experience and it hasn't worked out.

It sucks, and it's a mistake.. but it's not about being cheap.
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PhantomII's picture

September 29, 2024 at 04:52 pm

Absolutely...anytime there is a big failure in GB...like a good ST coach, etc. It's always about money at it's root core. There were at least 4 FA kickers last season, including our own Crosby who lost his 50+ range. There is truth in not having a quality go-to kicker after Crosby left. Our kicker may improve...hopefully a lot. But nothing feels like it's 85% a sure thing anymore regardless of the range we are kicking from. More red zone wins will limit the 3 point try. Our offense is nowhere near rolling like we were at the end of last season...It's gonna be a while.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 06:02 pm

Not sure how this conversation drifted from 'Packers don't have a kicker because they're cheap' to 'offense not as good as last year', but I'll try to steer it back on track.

Yes, the Packers are looking for the kicker of the future, and they have failed to find him over these last 2-3 seasons.. and I don't see any indication it's about money.

There's literally zero reason for the Packers to make moves based on saving money unless the cap is tight. There's no owner raking in more money if it's not spent. The Packers are a not-for-profit organization and they play in a league with not only a salary cap, but also a salary floor.

They may not be perfect and may make mistakes, but every move made by the Packers is made with the goal of doing what's best to field a competitive team that makes sense for both the short and long term of the franchise.

'being cheap' is rarely at the root of any problems with the Packers. It's a fun narrative for people though, especially through the TT years, even when he was paying key players handsomely on 2nd, 3rd contracts and extensions.

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NickPerry's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:41 pm

Gut Reactions:

Get a fucking kicker!!!

NOW!!

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NickPerry's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:48 pm

Does Mason still have his house in Green Bay?

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PhantomII's picture

September 29, 2024 at 04:53 pm

LOL...NO.

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4thand10's picture

September 29, 2024 at 03:51 pm

Well, it was the Vikings superbowl… cause thats a close as they will get to seeing it. They played a 49er team with No McCafrey and no Kittle. They let the packers come back from 28-0 for a final of 31-29 so I dont know how they can feel good about that win. It was evident Love had rust to knock off the entire first half. And GB basically didnt have a kicker and down 2 CBs.

But as a packer fan, this was the worst game to watch in 30+ yrs. At one point I turned it off and went outside and mowed the lawn. I dont want to see Nixon in the secondary for the rest of the year.

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Oppy's picture

September 29, 2024 at 04:07 pm

If you thought this was the worst game to watch in 30 years, your poor memory must be acting as a defense mechanism to prevent trauma.

There have been some real stinkers. ;)

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Packerpasty's picture

September 29, 2024 at 04:30 pm

you may be close if you had said worst first half...

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Cartwright's picture

September 30, 2024 at 02:41 am

Why did they give Narveson Donny Anderson's old number, maybe because he kicks like a running back. If he can run like him maybe a few faked field goals might workout better than actually kicking the ball. They should have chosen Joseph instead who has the Viking record for game winning field goals. Ce' la vie. GPG

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